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#301 Postby storms in NC » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:03 pm

huricanwatcher wrote:Keep waiting to hear OH NO..... shes not turning north, missed the ridge....... only reason cause how MESSED UP this season has been and the unbelieveable things storms have been doing...


The models have been really good with this storm. I knew it would turn but the more west it went I was thinking more to the left it would go but it didn't. It pulled to the north more now. So I wish that it would not go over Bermuda. The west side of the storm would be better for them.
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#302 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:06 pm

will the new storm surge thing at the NHC work in bermuda?
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#303 Postby Rainband » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:06 pm

From what I hear, Bremuda is very prepared for Storms. The building codes are really strict.
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#304 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:06 pm

This reminds me of a past storm that went through tough times...Hurricane Irene last year...
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#305 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:08 pm

It's fully banded now...just waiting for the real eye to open up...

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#306 Postby Trugunzn » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:08 pm

Is the center the warm cloud tops in the center of the storm right here:

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If it is then it is way south of the NHC track, I think it relocated its center furthur south



http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/sloop-avn.html
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#307 Postby Hyperstorm » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:08 pm

Latest IR images possibly indicate that the center is located to the SW of the advisory position. Will need more images to verify that. If it is, it's likely a 60 mph tropical storm right now.

Convection continues to blow...
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#308 Postby Dr. Jonah Rainwater » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:11 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:This reminds me of a past storm that went through tough times...Hurricane Irene last year...


Irene struggled to maintain convection for half of her lifetime before strengthening. Florence is a healthy, huge tropical storm that's still getting organized. The ones that bide their time at a steady intensity for a few days before the heat engine switches on are the ones that I worry about. I'm looking forward to tracking Florence. She's going to look amazing on sattelite.
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#309 Postby wxman57 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:15 pm

Trugunzn wrote:Is the center the warm cloud tops in the center of the storm right here:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg

If it is then it is way south of the NHC track, I think it relocated its center furthur south

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/sloop-avn.html


No, the center is not in the middle of that convection. It's up around 24N, closer to the top of the bright red area. That's not an eye in the middle of the red area.
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#310 Postby Rainband » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:19 pm

wxman57 wrote:No, the center is not in the middle of that convection. It's up around 24N, closer to the top of the bright red area. That's not an eye in the middle of the red area.
Thanks. The voice of reason. Music to my ears :D
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#311 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:26 pm

I wouldn't rule out a new center forming somewhere else in that mess; tends to happen with weak (wind speed wise) shallow systems.
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#312 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:32 pm

Hybridstorm_November2001 wrote:I wouldn't rule out a new center forming somewhere else in that mess; tends to happen with weak (wind speed wise) shallow systems.


That's what I see happening. Same happened with Ernesto before the NC landfall.
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#313 Postby Trugunzn » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:33 pm

So when does the NW turn happen? Still looks wnw and still below 25N

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#314 Postby Hyperstorm » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:34 pm

It's really anyone's guess where the center of this storm is located. That's why you see different T-Numbers from the satellite agencies.

Having said that, just looked at the recent visible loop and the advisory position looks about right as I don't see any south to north movement on that side. Anyway, it seems like there is still no well-defined tight core. There might even still be a couple of vortices around the circulation. Visible imagery still doesn't reveal a classic circulation.

Air Force Recon will be the witness...
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#315 Postby Trugunzn » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:41 pm

Looking at some images of Flo' it looks like the center did form furthur sw. Need couple more hours before certain
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#316 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:44 pm

Trugunzn wrote:So when does the NW turn happen? Still looks wnw and still below 25N

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/avn-l.jpg


http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... _5day.html

You can see it's gradually already starting, will really be noticeable tomorrow and especially Sunday.
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#317 Postby hiflyer » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:44 pm

Rainband wrote:From what I hear, Bremuda is very prepared for Storms. The building codes are really strict.


You are quite correct...I have been on the island frequently and especially the older construction is quite solid. Roofs are very strong and are used to trap water for drinking by funneling down into tanks. However...there are areas that are more susceptible to water damage such as the causeway to the airport and the airport terminal itself...both heavily damaged during the last storm but since repaired....on the NE end of the island by St. George. Remember that this is the top of an old volcano now surrounded by coral reefs on every side but the south....which do a great job blocking swells.

Having said that I find it quite different than the US...with the first high winds now possibly being 36 hrs outs I see no call in the local press for tourists to leave the island...nothing about hotels shutting down.

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#318 Postby Trugunzn » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:46 pm

Anybody think Recon will find hurricane winds tonight?
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#319 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:46 pm

a reformation to the osuth can change alot of things!
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#320 Postby Zardoz » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:47 pm

The center looks fairly defined in this loop:

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html

Does it look to you like Flo has heaved to and pretty much stopped at the moment?
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