2021 EPAC Season

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#361 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:36 pm

The back to back landfalling hurricanes modeled by the globals especially GFS remind me of 1996 in particular. Overall SST configuration favors multiple Mexico landfalls this year followed by an El Nino next year.
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#362 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:57 pm

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0z GFS back to a hurricane offshore.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#363 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:25 am

00z Euro and CMC in 7-10 also have a strong signal for another system to potentially become a hurricane in the east EPAC:

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Even though the Euro and CMC do not show hurricane pressures, they often underestimate intensity and can be extrapolated.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#364 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:54 pm

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12z GFS shows a hurricane that peaks south of Guerrero before weakening due to land interaction ala a Beatriz 11.

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12z CMC has a slow moving hurricane that meanders offshore.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#365 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:57 pm

12z Euro also continues to show it, but has been hinting on a broad system.
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I think the NHC will circle it on Monday.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#366 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:10 pm

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As shown by the CFS earlier this year, the -PDO may be starting to weaken.
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#367 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:32 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:[url]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733552978572869632/855551824932503582/Screen_Shot_2021-06-18_at_4.57.25_PM.png[url]

As shown by the CFS earlier this year, the -PDO may be starting to weaken.

This -PDO weakening is also visible on CDAS and OISST. Interesting developments considering it's June. This proceeds the natural summer time SST warming, which I think really takes off in July and peaks by October. So we could see the PDO warm further.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#368 Postby Nancy Smar » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:47 pm

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#369 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:57 pm

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0z GFS showing a hurricane that peaks west of Soccoro Island. Somewhat of a long tracker.
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#370 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:43 am

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#371 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:25 am

Yellow Evan wrote:https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1406212287124279303?s=21

https://twitter.com/andyhazelton/status/1406219096295870464?s=21

After a busy June, wouldn’t rule out a historically inactive July.

Wouldn’t the mass subsidence over the IO also mean an inactive Atlantic depending on how long it lasts?
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#372 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 8:31 am

aspen wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1406212287124279303?s=21

https://twitter.com/andyhazelton/status/1406219096295870464?s=21

After a busy June, wouldn’t rule out a historically inactive July.

Wouldn’t the mass subsidence over the IO also mean an inactive Atlantic depending on how long it lasts?


To a certain extent yes but there’s also somewhat of an ASW pattern evident.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#373 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:00 am

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6z GFS further east and weaker.

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0z ECMWF just south of Michoacan.
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#374 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:18 pm

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12z GFS brings a hurricane into Guerrero.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#375 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:00 pm

aspen wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1406212287124279303?s=21

https://twitter.com/andyhazelton/status/1406219096295870464?s=21

After a busy June, wouldn’t rule out a historically inactive July.

Wouldn’t the mass subsidence over the IO also mean an inactive Atlantic depending on how long it lasts?

For now it means a 2020 repeat is unlikely. The ASW and a slow EPAC hurricane season can still allow the Atlantic to have an active season though.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#376 Postby aspen » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:26 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
aspen wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1406212287124279303?s=21

https://twitter.com/andyhazelton/status/1406219096295870464?s=21

After a busy June, wouldn’t rule out a historically inactive July.

Wouldn’t the mass subsidence over the IO also mean an inactive Atlantic depending on how long it lasts?

For now it means a 2020 repeat is unlikely. The ASW and a slow EPAC hurricane season can still allow the Atlantic to have an active season though.

I thought that the African Standing Wave and the rising motion over Africa/the IO were one of the same.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#377 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:38 pm

aspen wrote:
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aspen wrote:Wouldn’t the mass subsidence over the IO also mean an inactive Atlantic depending on how long it lasts?

For now it means a 2020 repeat is unlikely. The ASW and a slow EPAC hurricane season can still allow the Atlantic to have an active season though.

I thought that the African Standing Wave and the rising motion over Africa/the IO were one of the same.

They can be connected in La Nina years, but in non La Nina years it's usually predominately over and around Africa. 2020 for example had a dominant ASW that slowly transitioned to the IO and then the MC.

 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1331716905326030853




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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#378 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:24 am

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0z GFS stronger and moving the timeframe up.
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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#379 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:54 am

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Re: 2021 EPAC Season

#380 Postby aspen » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:27 am

I wonder how long it’ll take for the EPac to produce its first operational hurricane. Dolores could get upgraded in post-season analysis, but since it wasn’t an operational hurricane, it won’t count for now.
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