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#41 Postby Gustywind » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:22 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-rb.html
How thunderstorms can burst quickly in less than 4 hours....convection is on verge of kissing the east Carib islands , Barbados is experiencing numerous showers and CB clouds observed , winds at 2kt but very moist air 100% :eek: http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/TBPB.html
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/EVENTS/EG14.JPG
Nice shoot!
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/wv-l.jpg
Nice ball huge hours after hours, but shear where are you??lol
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html
20kts to 30 kts....
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8sht.html
Winds abbating somewhat carrying less shear less impact for the moment the vigorous maybe...?
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Re: Wave Behind ex-91L Approaching Lesser Antilles

#42 Postby dixiebreeze » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:22 pm

cycloneye wrote:When they tagged 91L,it looked much worse than this. Maybe in a few hours we see 92L if convection persists.


My thoughts exactly, Luis.
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#43 Postby Gustywind » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:29 pm

Highly credible given this appareance..
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#44 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:30 pm

Even if this were August, I would say the convection is very impressive.....but how long will it last?
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#45 Postby Cyclone1 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:36 pm

Wow, that is impressive. Last time I looked at this mess it was just a disorganized area of showers. I could see this being tagged as an INVEST pretty much anytime. Keep an eye on the NRL.
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#46 Postby Gustywind » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:45 pm

Awesome gatorcane if this were in August potential for a TD classified surely during the night with much more conducives conditions in upper levels...this wave is showing how Mother Nature has surprises in store, for me it's just a beginning we have time to see others puffy and vigorous waves next month give the ssts 2 weeks...
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Re: Wave Behind ex-91L Approaching Lesser Antilles

#47 Postby brunota2003 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:51 pm

cycloneye wrote:When they tagged 91L,it looked much worse than this. Maybe in a few hours we see 92L if convection persists.

But also, 91L had a nice, tight LLC too. Whereas I havent seen any proof of such with this. I would like to see it persist before saying too much about it.

Did anyone check for outflow boundaries? Is it purely tropical, or sparked by outflow?
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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#48 Postby senorpepr » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:53 pm

A couple of interesting tidbits from the latest observations...

St. Lucia is reporting 18KT winds
Barbados has the "worst" conditions in the area. The 01Z METAR reported variable winds at 02KT, but the 00Z SYNOP reported 190° at 16KT. Visibility is restricted to 4km with moderate rain. Ceiling is at 1200ft.

Pressures throughout the region range from 1013 hPa to 1015 hPa.

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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#49 Postby rjgator » Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:59 pm

Looks like the tops are starting to warm a little. May go poof as fast as it went pop.
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#50 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:06 pm

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Nice to the eye.
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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#51 Postby bvigal » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:09 pm

Hello island neighbors, and mainlanders! Speaking just about the wave, not assuming any low pressure center, it was introduced only yesterday, and only 10 degrees behind wave containing 91L, had been part of one big surge on the TPW. click here. That then seemed to split (run loop on above), so was analyzed as separate wave. As to shear, yes upper level is as mentioned, but midlevel is not that bad. OK, it can't make a cat5 hurricane, lol, but can sustain convection. It's funny, the latest surface maps from TAFB don't show the first wave on 48 & 72 hr maps, it goes poof, and one remains.

Just not sure how well the models have handled this double-wave situation. Here's why I've very little confidence in the models, pertaining to our immediate area. Been watching them waffle back and forth the last 3 days, and eight years now of looking at them every morning, and then seeing what REALLY happens here. Right now GFS shows us (BVI) getting almost NO RAIN from this thing, and no wind, while NAM now on 4th issue of showing decent rain, latest is 1.8 inches from 2am to 8am Saturday, GFS shows none for Saturday, with some light rain tomorrow. Normally, they don't differ much.

And I'd love some rain, too. Puerto Rico has had plenty, but here May concluded with .06 in rain (at STT airport), 3.3 inches below average, since 1 March 1.72, average 7.27, 5.55 inches below norm. Cisterns are getting low.

Still think this wave contains plenty of energy and moisture, and bears watching for Hispaniola, Cuba, not a hurricane, but one of those TD's that can cause flooding. If it makes it to Florida, I know you Floridians will be rejoicing, you need the rain, too! ;-)
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#52 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:13 pm

The convection appears to be in an area of favourable upper-level divergence. However, no other conditions are favourable for it, and there's no sign of any low pressure in here based on the obs senorpepr showed. The wave should be stripped of its convection as it moves west and gets pulverised by shear. It looks like it could still be a major rainmaker for the islands.
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#53 Postby abajan » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:15 pm

Whoa! So that's why it's been raining so much here over the last several hours. It's not very heavy but it sure is steady!

Impressive satellite presentation indeed.
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#54 Postby wyq614 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:24 pm

Well, even Chinese trackers are now keeping an eye on this system, 'cause now subtropical high occupies nearly the entire NWPAC basin, and it seems we have nothing to expect for next couple of days.
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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#55 Postby boca » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:25 pm

This wave as it moves WNW will run into 40 knot shear between the Leewards and PR which will rip the top off it by tomorrow.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html
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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#56 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:25 pm

Martinique radar:

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http://www.meteo.fr/temps/domtom/antill ... SAIC2.html

The mass is moving WNW to NW.
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#57 Postby wyq614 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:31 pm

But the shear is decreasing a little, and we need to know in what direction the wave is moving, if it keeps a 250-300 degrees direction, it may still have the chance.
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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#58 Postby boca » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:31 pm

I think NWS in San Juan will change its thinking by tomorrow if this wave looks as good as it does now. I'm thinking based on that shear map that it might look sick or go poof by tomorrow.
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#59 Postby wyq614 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:33 pm

When I'm writing i didn't see the post of cycloneye. I think a 315-345 degree move is not really a good news...
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Re: Vigorous Tropical Wave Approaching Lesser Antilles

#60 Postby bvigal » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:34 pm

boca wrote:This wave as it moves WNW will run into 40 knot shear between the Leewards and PR which will rip the top off it by tomorrow.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html

I see that. So, does that mean the WAVE will be gone, that it will have no convection at all?
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