GFS/NAM Develop a Closed Low in the GOM End of This Week

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#41 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu May 28, 2009 10:13 pm

1009 mb low over the west gulf...but shear is very high and the
impulse is moving very fast- so no tropical development expected.
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#42 Postby wyq614 » Fri May 29, 2009 12:34 am

Havana reached 51mm in about one and a half hours.
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#43 Postby gatorcane » Fri May 29, 2009 1:36 pm

convective feedback issues at 120 hours?

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#44 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri May 29, 2009 8:34 pm

Mobile AFD mentions this low..........


MONDAY INTO TUESDAY IS A PRETTY STAGNANT STRETCH...WITH A GULF BREEZE
MAYBE FIRING OFF SOME AFTERNOON TSRA NEAR THE COAST. LATER TUESDAY
INTO WEDNESDAY...IS A DIFFERENT STORY. GUIDANCE IS ADVERTISING A
WHOLE BUNCH OF UPPER ENERGY SWOOPING SOUTH OVER THE NORTHERN CONUS AS
A WEAK SHORTWAVE MOVES ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST. GFS IS
ADVERTISING THIS PASSING SHORTWAVE DEVELOPING A SURFACE LOW OVER THE
NORTHEASTERN GULF...THEN TAKING IT EASTWARD TO THE NORTHERN FL
PENINSULA. THE ECMWF TIMES THIS FEATURE LATER...DEVELOPING THE
SURFACE LOW OVER THE NORTHWESTERN GULF THURS NIGHT INTO FRIDAY ALONG A
FRONT THAT IS BEING ADVERTISED PUSHING OVER THE NORTHERN GULF AT THAT
TIME. /16

Will bear watching IMO!
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#45 Postby Cyclone1 » Sat May 30, 2009 11:40 am

Hmm...

I'll wait until we actually have something there to jump on this train, but still, might be worth keeping our eye on the Gulf next week.
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#46 Postby Yankeegirl » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:49 pm

bring me some rain!
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#47 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:58 pm

Yankeegirl wrote:bring me some rain!



The thread title is over a week old...


GFS has quiet tropics for the next week, and anything beyond that I don't really care about because it is beyond the lobotomization of the model's grid scale resolution.


Both the GFS and WRF (12Z runs) produce about one quarter inch precip in the next 3 days in our area.
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Re: GFS Develops a Closed Low in the GOM Next Week

#48 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:21 pm

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Re: GFS Develops a Closed Low in the GOM Next Week

#49 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:27 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Image



I saw that- looks a lot like convective feedback, seems driven by a disturbance in the Westerlies, and is onshore almost immediately.

In my humble and amateur opinion.
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Re: GFS Develops a Closed Low in the GOM Next Week

#50 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:26 pm

MJO Pulse folks. EPAC has died. Model voodoo territory this early. :wink:
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#51 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:23 pm

Just another sign, IMO that nino is coming......beware the STJ...lol
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Re: GFS Develops a Closed Low in the GOM Next Week

#52 Postby Sanibel » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:09 am

I think there's a faint attempt at formation NW of Yucatan right now but early conditions are ripping it up.
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Re: GFS Develops a Closed Low in the GOM Next Week

#53 Postby poof121 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:14 am

Sanibel wrote:I think there's a faint attempt at formation NW of Yucatan right now but early conditions are ripping it up.


But shear is on the decrease...

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#54 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:17 am

NAM is now on this low, as cycloneye has pointed out in the models thread.

12Z GFS:

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Re: GFS Develops a Closed Low in the GOM Next Week

#55 Postby tailgater » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:18 am

Latest NAM run shows a slug of moisture/ weak low drifting northward to the La. cost then east towards Fla.
Just what doctor ordered for most of us. :D

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#56 Postby gatorcane » Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:21 am

Moisture on the increase in the GOM:

Upper-level winds are not favorable for any significant development though, in fact you are seeing this moisture as part of a 50K subtropical jet stream that has dipped into the Southern GOM and across Southern FL...not due to tropical influences.

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Re: GFS/NAM Develop a Closed Low in the GOM End of This Week

#57 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:14 pm

18z NAM at 84 hours.

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Re: GFS/NAM Develop a Closed Low in the GOM End of This Week

#58 Postby BigA » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:52 pm

That 84 hour NAM model looks a heck of a lot like your typical early june lopsided gulf system (see Allison '95, Arlene '05, Alberto '06, Barry '07). I'm skeptical, but if more model runs show something, it seems moderately common the past few years.
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Re: GFS/NAM Develop a Closed Low in the GOM End of This Week

#59 Postby attallaman » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:09 pm

So that mass of rain and clouds south of LA/MS is what you're talking about? Any chance that my area might see some rain out of that system? We could use some more rain here in my neck of the woods.
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Re: GFS/NAM Develop a Closed Low in the GOM End of This Week

#60 Postby LaBreeze » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:58 pm

We had heavy t-storms moving north from the GOM this morning and now we are stuck with a very heavy t-storm sitting right on top and not moving at all. So far it has dumped just about 3 inches on us. Seems the earlier storms were on the move, but now they are making a transition from moving north to just sitting and possibly slight movement to the east/southeast.
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