Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#41 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:49 pm

Just because the season is quieting down, we cannot declare it over yet. If this does develop, I think it will for into Central America or northeast Gulf of Mexico.
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#42 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:49 pm

000
ABNT20 KNHC 232340
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT WED SEP 23 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

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FORECASTER BROWN

I inserted this image here only because I'm surprised its not even mentioned at all in the TWO. Perhaps if convection maintains a bit more, it will be mentioned in the next TWO.
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#43 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:02 pm

there is nothing to mention in a TWO
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#44 Postby Emmett_Brown » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:28 pm

Pressures are a little bit low. This buoy at 16.8, 81.5 has a pressure of 29.80, with a NE wind at 13 kts. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42057
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#45 Postby lrak » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:39 pm

Check out this location just West of the blob.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MNPC.html

Emmett_Brown wrote:Pressures are a little bit low. This buoy at 16.8, 81.5 has a pressure of 29.80, with a NE wind at 13 kts. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42057
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#46 Postby BigA » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:39 pm

A ship at 14.1, 80.5 (near the southeastern edge of the convection) recently reported a pressure of 29.76, (1007.8 mb) though ship pressure reports are sometimes a bit unreliable.
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#47 Postby Emmett_Brown » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:45 pm

BigA wrote:A ship at 14.1, 80.5 (near the southeastern edge of the convection) recently reported a pressure of 29.76, (1007.8 mb) though ship pressure reports are sometimes a bit unreliable.
lrak wrote:Check out this location just West of the blob.

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/MNPC.html

Emmett_Brown wrote:Pressures are a little bit low. This buoy at 16.8, 81.5 has a pressure of 29.80, with a NE wind at 13 kts. http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=42057


Yup, those are both quite low. So far, only seeing E and NE winds in the area. I agree with Gator and others that the convection to the NE of Hon/Nic border is looking suspicious. If this keeps up, would not be surprised to see an invest tomorrow.
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#48 Postby Nimbus » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:00 pm

29.71 is kind of low even for the bottom of a diurnal pressure YOYO. NHC just needs that time travel buoy technology I guess :roll:
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#49 Postby boca » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:20 pm

I need the link to the buoy site to look up in the area. I would like to just click on the buoy to get the info.
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#50 Postby tailgater » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:02 pm

Are you looking for this?
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/rmd.shtml
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#51 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:02 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:there is nothing to mention in a TWO


Yes perhaps now. But if convection is persisting throughout the night, perhaps by tomorrow at the 8AM. This convection could easily poof by morning, that wouldn't surprise me. In fact I would think that blob poofs by 12 hours from now.

Wind shear tendency across the Western Caribbean is on the decrease, suggesting the upper-level environment is becoming more favorable, but right now there is no surface low so it may not matter. It's likely shear-induced convection at the moment, not that uncommon for that part of the WCAR.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8sht.html
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#52 Postby boca » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:01 pm

tailgater wrote:Are you looking for this?
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/rmd.shtml


Thanks I somehow lost that link.
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#53 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:14 pm

BigA wrote:A ship at 14.1, 80.5 (near the southeastern edge of the convection) recently reported a pressure of 29.76, (1007.8 mb) though ship pressure reports are sometimes a bit unreliable.


you usually need no higher than 1003mb to get a weak TD in the SW Carib this time of year
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#54 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:34 pm

Hard to say if a favorable pocket has developed with the fall.


So many false alarms this year from appearance the wise man will wait.
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Re: Western Caribbean / SW Gulf Development??

#55 Postby Nimbus » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:27 am

The convection has been fairly consistent off Nicaragua but the lowest surface pressures may be over land. There looks like an upper level anticyclone fanning the convection northeast but the low level steering might just pull the surface low pressure west over Nicaragua.
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#56 Postby Dave C » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:12 am

If you loop the water vapor there is an upper low right along the north coast of yucatan penensula. Last nite Steve Lyons mentioned a trop. wave in the area and the covection is firing east of the upper low as they move in tamdem to the west.
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#57 Postby CourierPR » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:15 am

Dave C wrote:If you loop the water vapor there is an upper low right along the north coast of yucatan penensula. Last nite Steve Lyons mentioned a trop. wave in the area and the covection is firing east of the upper low as they move in tamdem to the west.

the convection in the western Caribbean does not appear to have moved since yesterday.
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#58 Postby IvanSurvivor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:31 am

So the area to watch this morning is still right off the Honduras/Nicaraguan border? If so, doesn't appear to have moved much...
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#59 Postby IvanSurvivor » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:40 am

Is 29.84 in / 1010.50 mb? Just checked the buoy east of the Honduras/Nicaraguan border and it says 29.84. I could be wrong, don't know what I'm looking at...just learning.
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#60 Postby Emmett_Brown » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:06 am

I dont think we will be seeing development in the next 48 hours. Shear has increased quite a bit:

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8sht.html
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