2010 retired hurricanes

[FireRat]

Alex and Tomas likeliest.

of the two, Tomas has the greatest chance for retirement after being such an eventful and scary storm since its beginning. I wonder what may replace his name........Tobie maybe?

[OverlandHurricane]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was Igor still a tropical cyclone when it tagged Newfoundland?

[Macrocane]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was Igor still a tropical cyclone when it tagged Newfoundland?

Yes, Igor was still a tropical cyclone.

[jinftl]

From the NHC:

The only time that there is a change in the list is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate for reasons of sensitivity. If that occurs, then at an annual meeting by the WMO committee (called primarily to discuss many other issues) the offending name is stricken from the list and another name is selected to replace it.

A system making landfall doesn't meet the criteria for retirement.....it has to be 'so deadly or costly that the name in the future would be inappropriate. In the era of multi-billion dollar storms and huge losses of life, I don't think that any storm in 2010 would be a candidate for retirement. That doesn't mean that if you were impacted by a storm this year that your experience and suffering are 'less'....not implying that in the least.

Here are some storm names that did not get retired....and if you use those as a benchmark for 2010 storms, it seems clear that no names will be retired:

Bret - landfalled as a Cat 3 in Texas
Irene - did over $1 billion (2010 adjusted) in damage and killed 18 in Florida, Cuba, and the Bahamas
Alberto - did $1.5 billion (2010 adjusted) in Georgia and Florida as a tropical storm, killed 32
Gordon - killed estimated 1,122 in Haiti
Hanna - killed estimated 500+ in Haiti
Grace - part of the "Perfect Storm"

Some other names that will no doubt ring a bell that were not retired either:

Cindy
Beryl
Ernesto
Erin
Humberto
Jerry
Bertha
Fay
Hanna
Danny

[Andrew92]

On the other hand, if I'm thinking correctly, the country affected by the storm has to request the name to be retired. If that country describes that storm as one of the worst it has seen, I believe they do take that to consideration. Agatha and Matthew both caused enough damage and death to warrant retirement in Guatemala and Mexico request them, respectively. Alex also caused a lot of damage in northern Mexico, and in my opinion they have a case for retiring that name. But the strong case in terms of a damage perspective for Mexico is definitely Karl. 70 billion pesos is quite a lot for Mexico, and that name will probably be given the boot.

Finally, Tomas has been described somewhere (I forget where) as the second most damaging storm to hit St. Lucia. Sounds like a pretty decent retirement candidate if you ask me.

Now we wait to see which of these names are requested.

-Andrew92

[jinftl]

It will be interesting to see....i was a bit surprised to learn some of the names i listed were not retired given the large loss of life, damage in some cases over $1 billion, and name recognition among the general public (ex. say Irene in south florid....everyone knows what storm that was...not just folks like us on the board).

On the other hand, if I'm thinking correctly, the country affected by the storm has to request the name to be retired. If that country describes that storm as one of the worst it has seen, I believe they do take that to consideration. Agatha and Matthew both caused enough damage and death to warrant retirement in Guatemala and Mexico request them, respectively. Alex also caused a lot of damage in northern Mexico, and in my opinion they have a case for retiring that name. But the strong case in terms of a damage perspective for Mexico is definitely Karl. 70 billion pesos is quite a lot for Mexico, and that name will probably be given the boot.

Finally, Tomas has been described somewhere (I forget where) as the second most damaging storm to hit St. Lucia. Sounds like a pretty decent retirement candidate if you ask me.

Now we wait to see which of these names are requested.

-Andrew92

[Cleveland Kent Evans]

On the other hand, if I'm thinking correctly, the country affected by the storm has to request the name to be retired. If that country describes that storm as one of the worst it has seen, I believe they do take that to consideration. Agatha and Matthew both caused enough damage and death to warrant retirement in Guatemala and Mexico request them, respectively. Alex also caused a lot of damage in northern Mexico, and in my opinion they have a case for retiring that name. But the strong case in terms of a damage perspective for Mexico is definitely Karl. 70 billion pesos is quite a lot for Mexico, and that name will probably be given the boot.

Finally, Tomas has been described somewhere (I forget where) as the second most damaging storm to hit St. Lucia. Sounds like a pretty decent retirement candidate if you ask me.

Now we wait to see which of these names are requested.

-Andrew92

The above is correct. There are no objective criteria in terms of financial damage or lives lost that determine whether or not a storm has been "costly" or "deadly" enough to be retired. It's all done in terms of whether or not a nation affected by the storm requests it. Haiti evidently does not make such requests very often, if ever. France seems to make such requests in regard to storms that affect Guadeloupe or Martinique relatively frequently. That's why Gordon and Hanna were not retired but Klaus was.

[CrazyC83]

Based on the damage reports from St. Lucia, I would say they have a retirement case on Tomas.

[jinftl]

Have there been prior storm name retirements based on the primary impact being on one island in the caribbean (at the request of that one island to retire the name)....again, not trying to minimize or play down what st. lucia went through...no impact from a storm is ever to be minimized, but that said, not every storm that effects someone has its name retired either?

[Andrew92]

I think Paloma was retired primarily for what it did to the Cayman Islands. I understand it was one of their worst storms in history.

Luis (St. Martin), Marilyn (St. Thomas), and Lenny (St. Croix) are other great recent examples of this.

-Andrew92

[HurricaneBill]

Have there been prior storm name retirements based on the primary impact being on one island in the caribbean (at the request of that one island to retire the name)....again, not trying to minimize or play down what st. lucia went through...no impact from a storm is ever to be minimized, but that said, not every storm that effects someone has its name retired either?

Hurricane Klaus 1990 (Martinique)

[Cyclone1]

I see no excuse not to retire Alex, Karl, Matthew, and Agatha.

I mean... really. What are you saving them for, right?

[AussieMark]

From the NHC:

The only time that there is a change in the list is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate for reasons of sensitivity. If that occurs, then at an annual meeting by the WMO committee (called primarily to discuss many other issues) the offending name is stricken from the list and another name is selected to replace it.

A system making landfall doesn't meet the criteria for retirement.....it has to be 'so deadly or costly that the name in the future would be inappropriate. In the era of multi-billion dollar storms and huge losses of life, I don't think that any storm in 2010 would be a candidate for retirement. That doesn't mean that if you were impacted by a storm this year that your experience and suffering are 'less'....not implying that in the least.

Here are some storm names that did not get retired....and if you use those as a benchmark for 2010 storms, it seems clear that no names will be retired:

Bret - landfalled as a Cat 3 in Texas
Irene - did over $1 billion (2010 adjusted) in damage and killed 18 in Florida, Cuba, and the Bahamas
Alberto - did $1.5 billion (2010 adjusted) in Georgia and Florida as a tropical storm, killed 32
Gordon - killed estimated 1,122 in Haiti
Hanna - killed estimated 500+ in Haiti
Grace - part of the "Perfect Storm"

Some other names that will no doubt ring a bell that were not retired either:

Cindy
Beryl
Ernesto
Erin
Humberto
Jerry
Bertha
Fay
Hanna
Danny

to add to that list

Claudette (1979)
Juan (1985)
Bonnie (1998) [damages of $720 Million in 1998 dollars, Lili had damages of $860 Million in 2002 dollars, Lili was retired and Bonnie was retained]

[gilbert88]

If Tomas is retired after this season, V will be the only letter without at least one retired storm.

Back in 2004, who would have imagined that there would be devastating W, T and S storms before the decade was over?

Whew.

[HurricaneStriker]

In my opinion, Alex, Karl, and Tomas are the one most likely to retire.

[Ptarmigan]

I see Alex, Karl, and Tomas being retired. Matthew is a possibility due to being the storm that killed the most people for the season.

[Ptarmigan]

From the NHC:

The only time that there is a change in the list is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate for reasons of sensitivity. If that occurs, then at an annual meeting by the WMO committee (called primarily to discuss many other issues) the offending name is stricken from the list and another name is selected to replace it.

A system making landfall doesn't meet the criteria for retirement.....it has to be 'so deadly or costly that the name in the future would be inappropriate. In the era of multi-billion dollar storms and huge losses of life, I don't think that any storm in 2010 would be a candidate for retirement. That doesn't mean that if you were impacted by a storm this year that your experience and suffering are 'less'....not implying that in the least.

Here are some storm names that did not get retired....and if you use those as a benchmark for 2010 storms, it seems clear that no names will be retired:

Bret - landfalled as a Cat 3 in Texas
Irene - did over $1 billion (2010 adjusted) in damage and killed 18 in Florida, Cuba, and the Bahamas
Alberto - did $1.5 billion (2010 adjusted) in Georgia and Florida as a tropical storm, killed 32
Gordon - killed estimated 1,122 in Haiti
Hanna - killed estimated 500+ in Haiti
Grace - part of the "Perfect Storm"

Some other names that will no doubt ring a bell that were not retired either:

Cindy
Beryl
Ernesto
Erin
Humberto
Jerry
Bertha
Fay
Hanna
Danny

Alberto (1994), Gordon (1994), Danny (1997), and Hanna (2008) should of been retired.

[Tonic]

Maybe Alex, maybe none.

[frigidice77]

Alex,karl, matthew, nicole, tomas. Alex caused 1.885 billion. karl caused 5.6 billion. Matthew caused 2.6 billion. Tomas because everyelse said Tomas. Lol. One more thing if matthew gets retired wouldnt it make it the second tropical storm to be retired?

[HurrikaneBryce]

Alex,karl, matthew, nicole, tomas. Alex caused 1.885 billion. karl caused 5.6 billion. Matthew caused 2.6 billion. Tomas because everyelse said Tomas. Lol. One more thing if matthew gets retired wouldnt it make it the second tropical storm to be retired?

Yes. The other was Tropical Storm Allison back in 2001.