New Orleans Escapes The Big One Again - Thank God

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#41 Postby CajunMama » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:52 pm

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Exactly Steve. The horrific images I had painted in my mind by the media yesterday, is not what I"m seeing and hearing about today. Perhaps they have yet to mention the worst that's happened. I'll just have to wait and see.


You decided in your imagination what the horror of this storm would be. I am guessing "the big one" only means alot of deaths. This will be THE costliest hurricane ever....winds are still blowing down there...assessment has really not begun to take place...waters have not receded in flooded areas...who knows what will be found there.
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#42 Postby oneness » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:53 pm

Wish people would wait instead of making pre-emptive conclusions. Just wait for the water to recede so that areas can be checked upon and an actual air assessment made instead of guessing, based upon remarkably little. I can't see why people want to assume and speculate like this. No one yet even knows what was wrecked and what was not, and no one has a clue about the human toll (how on earth would you know?) and there are a lot of people reading this directly affected, and they don't need this BS.

They need facts.
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#43 Postby Mello1 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:55 pm

Viper452 wrote:I think it will be up in the thousands before it is all said and done. Deadliest hurricane of all time. Mississippi got the doomsday scenario.

Don't know about the thousands, but I fear that it may exceed Camille's numbers. MS was ground zero and they had a lot of people thinking NO. My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this and if the death toll spikes in MS, then the blame game will begin.

I agree with your assessment on MS. I fear it's going to be very bad there when it's all said and done. God bless their souls.
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#44 Postby FlSteel » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:57 pm

I'm not sure of what the entire death toll will be but something that people need to remember is that this storm is a LONGGGggggggggggg way from being over. This storm still has yet to make it up into the Mississippi valley and the Ohio valley. It is a fast mover and will bring winds and lots of rain very far north. The overall flooding event is just beginning.
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#45 Postby Mello1 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:58 pm

oneness wrote:Wish people would wait instead of making pre-emptive conclusions. Just wait for the water to recede so that areas can be checked upon and an actual air assessment made instead of guessing, based upon remarkably little. I can't see why people want to assume and speculate like this. No one yet even knows what was wrecked and what was not, and no one has a clue about the human toll (how on earth would you know?) and there are a lot of people reading this directly affected, and they don't need this BS.

They need facts.

Well, based on reports from the sister of a police officer in Pascaloga (sry about the spelling), MS, it's very very dire there right now.
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#46 Postby jasons2k » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:58 pm

Yes N.O. damage will be bad. The reports are never that bad in the very beginning. Tomorrow will be a different story when the news crews get out of downtown and we have choppers.

I am sure we will also find that MS took the brunt of the storm and was totally devastated.

Probably costliest storm in US history, etc., etc.

But people, I think it's unambiguously very, very clear and quite obvious that N.O. DID NOT HAVE the "worst case" "doomsday" scenario.

That scenario was the lake levee failing, dumping 10-25 feet of water in the entire city, uninhabitable for months (or ever), a cess pool of sewage and 50,000 bodies. IT DID NOT HAPPEN THANK GOD!!!
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#47 Postby Brent » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:59 pm

blueeyes_austin wrote:Has anyone heard ANYTHING from Slidell? The eye went right over it.


No... but the Slidell NWS radar went down... and does anyone know if they are still issuing products???
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#48 Postby djtil » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:59 pm

My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this


lol...the nws pegged the landfall and reading the miss hurricane statements im not sure what else "folks" wanted the NWS to warn about.
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#49 Postby Brent » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:00 pm

Mello1 wrote:
Viper452 wrote:I think it will be up in the thousands before it is all said and done. Deadliest hurricane of all time. Mississippi got the doomsday scenario.

Don't know about the thousands, but I fear that it may exceed Camille's numbers. MS was ground zero and they had a lot of people thinking NO. My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this and if the death toll spikes in MS, then the blame game will begin.

I agree with your assessment on MS. I fear it's going to be very bad there when it's all said and done. God bless their souls.


The NHC was right on with the track... it was always stressed that the eastern side of the storm would be more intense...
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#50 Postby Luckydog33 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:01 pm

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MS was ground zero and they had a lot of people thinking NO. My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this and if the death toll spikes in MS, then the blame game will begin. [/quote]

Blame game? As huge as this storm was, and with the MS coast right next door to NO, were they really surprised?
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#51 Postby djtil » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:01 pm

no doubt brent, if people in mississippi were caught unprepared, blame darwin, not the NWS.
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#52 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:06 pm

Luckydog33 wrote:MS was ground zero and they had a lot of people thinking NO. My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this and if the death toll spikes in MS, then the blame game will begin.

Blame game? As huge as this storm was, and with the MS coast right next door to NO, were they really surprised?


If anyone in Mississippi looked at the NHC forecasts for the two days leading up to this and concluded anything other than that they were likely to be hit very hard, then I'm at a loss what to say to them.

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#53 Postby Luckydog33 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:08 pm

x-y-no wrote:
Luckydog33 wrote:

MS was ground zero and they had a lot of people thinking NO. My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this and if the death toll spikes in MS, then the blame game will begin.


Blame game? As huge as this storm was, and with the MS coast right next door to NO, were they really surprised?[/quote]

If anyone in Mississippi looked at the NHC forecasts for the two days leading up to this and concluded anything other than that they were likely to be hit very hard, then I'm at a loss what to say to them.

:roll:[/quote]

Me too, x-y
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#54 Postby yzerfan » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:09 pm

Yeah, how many times does the NWS/NHC say to "look at the cone, not the line"?

The thing to remember with Andrew is that it was a relatively small storm. If Andrew had had a Katrina-sized wind field, then Miami would have been truly leveled, not just given a relatively glancing blow. The population concentration may not be as great, but we're talking about serious/significant damage over a 100 mile stretch of coastline.
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#55 Postby CajunMama » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:10 pm

Luckydog33 wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
Luckydog33 wrote:

MS was ground zero and they had a lot of people thinking NO. My boss just told me that folks are already hot with the NWS over this and if the death toll spikes in MS, then the blame game will begin.


Blame game? As huge as this storm was, and with the MS coast right next door to NO, were they really surprised?


If anyone in Mississippi looked at the NHC forecasts for the two days leading up to this and concluded anything other than that they were likely to be hit very hard, then I'm at a loss what to say to them.

:roll:[/quote]

Me too, x-y[/quote]

Shouldn't these people have known that the east side is the worst side? They're just looking to blame someone besides themselves.
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#56 Postby Luckydog33 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:12 pm

yzerfan wrote:Yeah, how many times does the NWS/NHC say to "look at the cone, not the line"?

The thing to remember with Andrew is that it was a relatively small storm. If Andrew had had a Katrina-sized wind field, then Miami would have been truly leveled, not just given a relatively glancing blow. The population concentration may not be as great, but we're talking about serious/significant damage over a 100 mile stretch of coastline.


And that's the thing...this storm was HUGE, and how far is Biloxi/Gulfport from NO? 75 miles?
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#57 Postby therealashe » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:12 pm

Isn't there a post on this board about a shelter collapsing in MS? If that's true, there is no telling how many lives were lost.

There is no "dodging a bullet" with a hurricane unless it stays out to sea. Someone somewhere is having their home, work, etc destroyed.

This is still a storm iwht 95 mph winds... somehow, I don't think the bullet was dodged at all :(
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#58 Postby therealashe » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:14 pm


And that's the thing...this storm was HUGE, and how far is Biloxi/Gulfport from NO? 75 miles?


And that's just the hurricane force winds, we've got gusty winds all the way over in Tallahassee.
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#59 Postby Luckydog33 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:15 pm

therealashe wrote:Isn't there a post on this board about a shelter collapsing in MS? If that's true, there is no telling how many lives were lost.

There is no "dodging a bullet" with a hurricane unless it stays out to sea. Someone somewhere is having their home, work, etc destroyed.

This is still a storm iwht 95 mph winds... somehow, I don't think the bullet was dodged at all :(


You're right...the "bullet" was "dodged" only in the sense that the entire city of New Orleans is not under 20-25 feet of water right now. But otherwise, I don't see any way to say that.
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#60 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:16 pm

CajunMama wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:
Exactly Steve. The horrific images I had painted in my mind by the media yesterday, is not what I"m seeing and hearing about today. Perhaps they have yet to mention the worst that's happened. I'll just have to wait and see.


You decided in your imagination what the horror of this storm would be. I am guessing "the big one" only means alot of deaths. This will be THE costliest hurricane ever....winds are still blowing down there...assessment has really not begun to take place...waters have not receded in flooded areas...who knows what will be found there.



You are obviously missing my point. The image I had painted in my mind yesterday was just a pile of rubble everywhere with death and destruction for miles and miles, and new Orleans under water, nothing but a flattened mass of rubble.... I didn't see that when I turned on the tv. Shouldn't we count our blessing that it could have been alot worse??? It's okay if they say all over the news that "it wasn't as bad as expected", but if I say it, then all of the sudden I'm this evil person. :(
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