Two Possible LLCs in the Central Atlantic

[gatorcane]

There no new invests yet, so TPC may still not mention these areas in 11:30 TWO this morning. I agree they do look more interesting for tropical storm formation than 91L.

If something like this was in the Caribbean or GOM I think it would get a word or two in the TWO.

[cheezyWXguy]

If I worked for the NHC I'd call it an invest, maybe even a depression.

[cheezyWXguy]

According to WV its about to hit some SAL:


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-wv.html

[Thunder44]

Latest TWO just came out still no mention. Perhaps they are not even looking over this area much this morning. Seemed to be focused still on 91L.

[gatorcane]

no mention of our waves in the latest TWO

[no advance]

Is that an outflow boundry coming out of our TW If so no chance of development now.

[cheezyWXguy]

what is an outflow boundry again, a banding feature?

[drezee]

No, an outflow boundary comes from a collapsing thunderstorm. ouflow mean nor inflow and inflow is needed for tropical development...you need inflow to replace the air that needs to rise in order for the pressures to fall.

[cheezyWXguy]

oH, ok thanx drezee. In that case no advance, that is an outflow boundry but thunderstorms are trying to flare up right on top of it...the only thing that concerns me is the SAL in front of it, although it appears to be slowly narrowing and weakening

[drezee]

That feature you see in front of the convection is not an outflow boundary, it is the leading edge of the circulation. Unfortunately, the surface LLC is outrunning the thuderstorms.

[cheezyWXguy]

it looks lke a band to me...it goes just as high to the north andi think theres one on the south end too

[Thunder44]

That feature you see in front of the convection is not an outflow boundary, it is the leading edge of the circulation. Unfortunately, the surface LLC is outrunning the thuderstorms.

Yes, I only really see one LLC. I think it maybe all one system now. If that the case it's not organizing.

[drezee]

That feature you see in front of the convection is not an outflow boundary, it is the leading edge of the circulation. Unfortunately, the surface LLC is outrunning the thuderstorms.

Yes, I only really see one LLC. I think it maybe all one system now. If that the case it's not organizing.

There are two distinct system and two distinct circulations. I believe that they will ultimately combine into one larger system, but right how they are separate.

[drezee]

Warning Dial-up Users:

This is an even better loop of the location!

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/ge ... mframes=12

[drezee]

Still rotating and IMO...the best things going in the Atlantic Basin by far! Oh yeah, by the way that is banding setting up....

[cheezyWXguy]

both circualtions look great...i have a little bit more confident with the one farther southwest...it looks to have deeper convection and is low enough to avoid the dry air between there and the antillies

[Tampa_God]

The one on top looks like it has a better chance. If some how the other one can push itselfs out, it might form, but looks too south. Also, the northern one looks like it has a better outflow with it.

[JamesFromMaine2]

its now a invest! Talk about it in the Invest 93L thread!

[weatherbee1982]

The circulation at 7.3N/40W looks more healthy. It is establishing convection close to it's center, and before the visual lost sunlight, the cloud tops looked to be gaining in height. That one might become an invest here shortly, if not a depression within the next 24 to 48 hours if this keeps up.

Like James said, and like I said yesterday, the system at 7.3N has become Invest 93L. It looks like it has some good banding, though NHC does not think it will develop into much. It is there as an Invest, regardless.