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#41 Postby hial2 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:38 pm

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the_winds_that_sheared_me wrote:
And I am more concerned with the Saturn hurricane and its possible impacts on Fla.



Dont we have a member that has knowledge of this type of correlation??
I'd like to hear his views..


The quote above was meant to be a joke. There is no possible correltation between a storm on a distant planet and weather on Earth.


I know I read on this forum someone mentioning the correlation of solar flares and such and weather on Earth..
But I guess a storm on Saturn and its effects on Earth's weather is stretching things a bit :oops:
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#42 Postby Aquawind » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:38 pm

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FWIW.. There is a wave forecast in the area alrighty..
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#43 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:40 pm

12z NAM

:uarrow: :uarrow:

Well,the NAM is the NAM,you know what I mean,but anyway here is it's 12z run about this.
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#44 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:41 pm

hial2 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
hial2 wrote:
the_winds_that_sheared_me wrote:
And I am more concerned with the Saturn hurricane and its possible impacts on Fla.



Dont we have a member that has knowledge of this type of correlation??
I'd like to hear his views..


The quote above was meant to be a joke. There is no possible correltation between a storm on a distant planet and weather on Earth.


I know I read on this forum someone mentioning the correlation of solar flares and such and weather on Earth..
But I guess a storm on Saturn and its effects on Earth's weather is stretching things a bit :oops:


It's possible that storm has been there for a long time, but now that we have Cassini investigating the planet more closely, we find it out. Moreover, Saturn doesn't have any effect on Earth.
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#45 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:43 pm

:uarrow: I think that there is a thread about Saturn.Here we are discussing about what the global models are showing about a possible SW Caribbean Development.

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic ... 86#1489286
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#46 Postby Aquawind » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:45 pm

Shear has been minimal recently and I see nothing to change that in the near future..

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... rjava.html

However the GOM looks like it will keep any development in check if the trend continues..
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#47 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:00 pm

boca wrote:Maybe so but I don't believe the models personally especially this year and being so late in the season. Also being an El Nino year. Its not gonna happen.


Boca,the global model consensus about this is too strong and very consistent and because of this consensus in this case you may want to believe in them and pay close attention.
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#48 Postby wxman57 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:42 pm

Aquawind wrote:Shear has been minimal recently and I see nothing to change that in the near future..

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... rjava.html

However the GOM looks like it will keep any development in check if the trend continues..


The wind flow on the shear animation doesn't appear to match the current conditions across the eastern Caribbean as indicated by WV loops. Direction is almost 90 degrees off.
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#49 Postby Aquawind » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:11 pm

The wind flow on the shear animation doesn't appear to match the current conditions across the eastern Caribbean as indicated by WV loops. Direction is almost 90 degrees off.


Like that's a surprise. :lol: As most of us know those shear maps are always suspect. You would think for analysis they would be more credible. So much for computer generation. You would think they would recognize this and get a human involved to verify and adjust them. I suspose it comes down to money and we need to pay people in the private sector for that kind of quality..
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#50 Postby fci » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:44 pm

HURAKAN wrote:
hial2 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
hial2 wrote:
the_winds_that_sheared_me wrote:
And I am more concerned with the Saturn hurricane and its possible impacts on Fla.



Dont we have a member that has knowledge of this type of correlation??
I'd like to hear his views..


The quote above was meant to be a joke. There is no possible correltation between a storm on a distant planet and weather on Earth.


I know I read on this forum someone mentioning the correlation of solar flares and such and weather on Earth..
But I guess a storm on Saturn and its effects on Earth's weather is stretching things a bit :oops:


It's possible that storm has been there for a long time, but now that we have Cassini investigating the planet more closely, we find it out. Moreover, Saturn doesn't have any effect on Earth.


I don't live too far away from Jupiter (Florida) so this storm on Saturn disturbs me since it seems to be affecting planets.

Plus my neighbor drives a SATURN so I am concerned about the coincidence.

:eek:
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#51 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:56 pm

fci wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:
hial2 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
hial2 wrote:
the_winds_that_sheared_me wrote:
And I am more concerned with the Saturn hurricane and its possible impacts on Fla.



Dont we have a member that has knowledge of this type of correlation??
I'd like to hear his views..


The quote above was meant to be a joke. There is no possible correltation between a storm on a distant planet and weather on Earth.


I know I read on this forum someone mentioning the correlation of solar flares and such and weather on Earth..
But I guess a storm on Saturn and its effects on Earth's weather is stretching things a bit :oops:


It's possible that storm has been there for a long time, but now that we have Cassini investigating the planet more closely, we find it out. Moreover, Saturn doesn't have any effect on Earth.


I don't live too far away from Jupiter (Florida) so this storm on Saturn disturbs me since it seems to be affecting planets.

Plus my neighbor drives a SATURN so I am concerned about the coincidence.

:eek:


Joke overkill :eek:

Anyway I think this is going to be a weak storm at most given climo. Note that only the CMC (which is an unreliable model anyways) deepens the system. Most other models barely get it going as a weak TS.
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#52 Postby hial2 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:12 pm

cycloneye wrote:[b]

Well,the NAM is the NAM,you know what I mean,but anyway here is it's 12z run about this.


Well, it's one more model to add to concensus...
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#53 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:52 pm

18z NAM

:uarrow: :uarrow:

For those who follow the NAM model here is the 18z run.

18z GFS

:uarrow: :uarrow:

In this 18z GFS run,this model continues to show how consistent it has been with this system in terms of development,although the track is somewhat different from other models.
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#54 Postby hurricanetrack » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:37 pm

Looks like it will happen- according to the models. Hard to believe that it won't happen with ALL of the models that we typically look at show it. But I guess for some of the non-believers out there, it will take advisory number one for them to believe it- and me too! This season has been a non-producer, so I can understand the skepticism. But with 100% model agreement, it's only a matter of time.
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#55 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:39 pm

hurricanetrack wrote:Looks like it will happen- according to the models. Hard to believe that it won't happen with ALL of the models that we typically look at show it. But I guess for some of the non-believers out there, it will take advisory number one for them to believe it- and me too! This season has been a non-producer, so I can understand the skepticism. But with 100% model agreement, it's only a matter of time.


At this point with the agreement of all the global models this has turned into=Not if,but when,how strong and where it will go.
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#56 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:49 pm

:uarrow: ABOUT TIME!!! :uarrow:

Since Isaac said bye, it has been a boring time in the Atlantic.
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#57 Postby Rainband » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:52 pm

It seems like Cuba, Hati, and Pr will have to watch this one.
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#58 Postby Rainband » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:52 pm

HURAKAN wrote::uarrow: ABOUT TIME!!! :uarrow:

Since Isaac said bye, it has been a boring time in the Atlantic.
Boring is fine ith me.
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#59 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:14 pm

Rainband wrote:It seems like Cuba, Hati, and Pr will have to watch this one.


Well Johnnathan,in terms of track it's very early to say for sure where it may go as there is anything right now.All we have are various scenarios from the global models but that is it.Until there is a well defined low pressure thinking about future tracks is early to do.
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#60 Postby hial2 » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:29 pm

Rainband wrote:It seems like Cuba, Hati, and Pr will have to watch this one.


I keep thinking of Gordon and his crazy" tour" around Cuba..
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