Hurricane Alley

[Ivanhater]

I dont really understand the point of this thread...Anyone can take facts and put them to use for whatever point they are making....Northwest Florida has been hit by 3 major hurricanes since 95...does that make us hurricane alley?

Thank you, thought I was alone here.

Lol, nope, Im right there with ya

[bayway]

Well in the past 15 years the SFL area has had (4) majors and (5) Cat 1-2. The chance of a tropical system affecting the SFL area is much greater than Waveland to Pensacola. Yes the past 40 years have brought many major storms to the N gulf coast.
http://www.hurricanecity.com/Rank.htm

here are the fact for the past 80 years...
KWT wrote:
Maybe majors, but the south of Florida smashes that region when it comes to total strikes of hurricanes overall:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/strikes_egulf.gif


you need to check your numbers there hero... smashes?
Monroe Dade and Broward (200 miles) 64
Waveland to Destin (200 miles) 78

add palm beach county to cover over 250 miles and you have 79 stikes... and
that's not smashing... you let the color code fool you.

[skufful]

Statistics don't mean a thing to a hurricane. Tell the folks in Charleston, SC (HUGO) that they are not in "Hurricane Alley." All it takes is one to ruin you life. Hugo just spared us, Beaufort, SC, at the last minute.

[MiamiensisWx]

South Florida (Tampa/Sebastian to Keys)
Major hurricane strikes (1851 to 2005)

26 major hurricanes
16 Category 3
8 Category 4
2 Category 5

1871 - Cat. 3 (100 kts, 115 mph); 955 mbar (Martin/St. Lucie)
1873 - Cat. 3 (100 kts, 115 mph); 959 mbar (Charlotte/Lee)
1888 - Cat. 3 (110 kts, 125 mph); pressure N/A (Miami-Dade/Broward)
1906 - Cat. 3 (105 kts, 120 mph); 953 mbar (Monroe Keys/Miami-Dade)
1909 - Cat. 3 (100 kts, 115 mph); 957 mbar (Monroe Keys)
1919 - Cat. 4 (120 kts, 140 mph); 927 mbar (Monroe Keys/offshore)
1926 - Cat. 4 (115 kts, 135 mph); 935 mbar (Miami-Dade/Broward)
1928 - Cat. 4 (115 kts, 135 mph); 929 mbar (Palm Beach/Martin/St. Lucie)
1929 - Cat. 3 (winds N/A); 948 mbar (Monroe Keys)***Listed as Category 2 (90 kts, 105 mph) at Monroe Keys in HURDAT (Unisys)
1933 - Cat. 3 (110 kts, 125 mph); 948 mbar (Palm Beach/Martin)
1935 - Cat. 5 (140 kts, 160 mph); 892 mbar (Monroe Keys)
1941 - Cat. 3 (105 kts, 120 mph); pressure N/A (Miami-Dade)
1944 - Cat. 3 (winds N/A); 968 mbar (Sarasota/Charlotte)***Listed as Category 1 (65 kts, 75 mph) at landfall in HURDAT (Unisys)
1945 - Cat. 4 (115 kts, 135 mph); 951 mbar (Miami-Dade)
1947 - Cat. 4 (135 kts, 155 mph); 947 mbar (Broward/Palm Beach)
1948 - Cat. 3 (105 kts, 120 mph); 963 mbar (Monroe Keys/mainland)***First hurricane
1948 - Cat. 3 (110 kts, 125 mph); 975 mbar (Monroe Keys/Miami-Dade)***Second hurricane
1949 - Cat. 4 (130 kts, 150 mph); 954 mbar (Palm Beach/Martin)
1950 (KING) - Cat. 3 (winds N/A); 955 mbar (Miami-Dade/Broward)***Listed as Category 2 (90 kts, 105 mph) at landfall in HURDAT (Unisys)
1960 (DONNA) - Cat. 4 (115 kts, 135 mph); 932 mbar (Monroe Keys)
1964 (ISBELL) - Cat. 3 (110 kts, 125 mph); 968 mbar (Collier/Monroe Keys and mainland)
1965 (BETSY) - Cat. 3 (110 kts, 125 mph); 954 mbar (Monroe Keys/Miami-Dade)
1992 (ANDREW) - Cat. 5 (145 kts, 165 mph); 922 mbar (Miami-Dade)
2004 (CHARLEY) - Cat. 4 (130 kts, 150 mph); 941 mbar (Charlotte/Lee)
2004 (JEANNE) - Cat. 3 (105 kts, 120 mph); 950 mbar (Martin/St. Lucie/Indian River)
2005 (WILMA) - Cat. 3 (105 kts, 120 mph); 950 mbar (Collier/Monroe Keys and mainland)

This data is for those who want statistics. In a general sense, the southern half of Florida has received most of the major hurricane strikes. This is based upon 154 years of data. HURDAT covers 1851 through 2005. Note that many intensity estimates may be inaccurate; thus, it is possible that the numbers may be similar between southern Florida and Waveland to Destin, Florida. As others noted, statistics can be flawed. In addition, there are many variables. When you compare the statistics with other factors, many additional details and synoptics may be more significant (as Berwick Bay noted).

[MGC]

How many miles of coast line does S. Fla entail? We are talking hurricanes per mile here. Mississippi has like an 80 mile coast line. The chain of the keys is longer than that.....MGC

[bayway]

MiamiensisWx... you are talking about 400+ miles of coastline.
I'm talking about a 120 mile streach.

galveston to panama city beach is about 400 miles... that area
has had far more destistating... let alone cat 1 and 2 hits than you
have listed for south florida.

but i was actually speaking of the 120... staying on topic.

[Jevo]

As I originally stated....... on this board.. before you read somebody post.. thoughts or amateur forecast... look at their location...... 8 out of 10 times.... The post is very Biased towards where they live..... allthough I wount use the dreaded W word...... rhymes with swishkast...

There is always enough data and numbers to highlight anyones post

[Opal storm]

As I originally stated....... on this board.. before you read somebody post.. thoughts or amateur forecast... look at their location...... 8 out of 10 times.... The post is very Biased towards where they live..... allthough I wount use the dreaded W word...... rhymes with swishkast...

There is always enough data and numbers to highlight anyones post

I agree and this thread is a perfect example.

[bayway]

dude... i'm not forcasting (-removed-) I'm pointing out
facts. no reason to attack me.

[Blown Away]

Rely on data collected from reliable sources. Information is pretty clear.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastprofile.shtml

http://www.hurricanecity.com/Rank.htm

[caneman]

Rely on data collected from reliable sources. Information is pretty clear.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastprofile.shtml

http://www.hurricanecity.com/Rank.htm

Sure is! but people will tweak things to come up with a conclusion our for a pre-determined outcome they already have formulated in their mind and not listen to facts. Better to get facts first.

[bayway]

Rely on data collected from reliable sources. Information is pretty clear.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastprofile.shtml

http://www.hurricanecity.com/Rank.htm

based on the map from your reliable source... past 80 years...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/strikes_egulf.gif

Monroe Dade and Broward (200 miles) 64
Waveland to Destin (200 miles) 78

Any 120 mile strech between Key West and Palm Beach
doesn't have as many hits as between Waveland and Orange beach
in the past 40-80 years.

[Opal storm]

Rely on data collected from reliable sources. Information is pretty clear.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastprofile.shtml

http://www.hurricanecity.com/Rank.htm

based on the map from your reliable source... past 80 years...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gifs/strikes_egulf.gif

Monroe Dade and Broward (200 miles) 64
Waveland to Destin (200 miles) 78

Any 120 mile strech between Key West and Palm Beach
doesn't have as many hits as between Waveland and Orange beach
in the past 40-80 years.

So then I guess everybody from Key West to Palm Beach shouldn't worry about major hurricanes anymore? Again, I really don't understand the point of all this.

[bayway]

Opal Storm said "So then I guess everybody from Key West to Palm Beach shouldn't worry
about major hurricanes anymore? Again, I really don't understand the point of all this."

I am insulted by your comment...
Where did I say that? Please don't attack the messenger.
I'm just saying... and supporting with FACTS that the area
between Waveland and Orange Beach have been more
likely to get hit by a monster storm in the past 40 years
than any other.

I also understand that the population in this area is nothing
compared to the population of an area like South Florida.
I understand that some storms around the turn of the century...
when info was very limited... killed horrible amounts of people
in places like south florida and galviston...

I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to exclude anyone. I'm saying
the true hurricane alley is between waveland and orange beach.

i am studying data are reporting results. I'm not sharing gut
feelings and opinions.... i think...

[Opal storm]

Didn't mean to insult you, just trying to understand the point of all this.

[bayway]

I am a climatologist. This is a climatological topic.
this is a weather board. It's all relevant.

[caneman]

Opal Storm said "So then I guess everybody from Key West to Palm Beach shouldn't worry
about major hurricanes anymore? Again, I really don't understand the point of all this."

I am insulted by your comment...
Where did I say that? Please don't attack the messenger.
I'm just saying... and supporting with FACTS that the area
between Waveland and Orange Beach have been more
likely to get hit by a monster storm in the past 40 years
than any other.

I also understand that the population in this area is nothing
compared to the population of an area like South Florida.
I understand that some storms around the turn of the century...
when info was very limited... killed horrible amounts of people
in places like south florida and galviston...

I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to exclude anyone. I'm saying
the true hurricane alley is between waveland and orange beach.

i am studying data are reporting results. I'm not sharing gut
feelings and opinions.... i think...

You may want to report these facts er. ,, to the folks at NOAA so we can have your area labeled accordingly as Hurricane Alley.

[caneman]

I am a climatologist. This is a climatological topic.
this is a weather board. It's all relevant.

Tsk, Tsk, First rule of a supposed climatologist is to look at a complete history and not just 40 years. You can pull a variety of 40 year time frames, i.e. '55-95, "65-2005. '45-'85 and I'm sure make a case for at least a few different areas being Hurricane alley.

[bayway]

I am a climatologist. This is a climatological topic.
this is a weather board. It's all relevant.

Tsk, Tsk, First rule of a supposed climatologist is to look at a complete history and not just 40 years. You can pull a variety of 40 year time frames, i.e. '55-95, "65-2005. '45-'85 and I'm sure make a case for at least a few different areas being Hurricane alley.

then please... make the case.
that's why i started this thread.

[beachbum_al]

I am in the dead center of what they call Hurricane Alley.