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#401 Postby CHRISTY » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:25 am

jschlitz wrote:
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Stratusxpeye wrote:Matthew Newman, Sr. Meteorologist, The Weather Channel

Upper-level winds in the Atlantic Basin are rendering any tropical cyclone genesis unlikely over the next day or so. That being said, a cluster of showers is currently just north of the central Bahamas. There is no indication of a surface low at this time and surface pressures are high. This is simply an upper-level low, and winds aloft continue to be hostile for any further development. The area is expected to drift toward the coast of the Southeast over the next few days. This could bring some much-needed rainfall to the region.

Meanwhile, the eastern Pacific is also free from any organized tropical activity.

TWC's Statement made this morning regarding the system.


well i will go with the NHC sayin this area has becoming a bit better organized. :wink:


Don't forget the last part of the NHC's statement. They basically say the same thing as TWC:

UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY NOT
FAVORABLE
AND ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...SHOULD BE SLOW TO
OCCUR.

I posted this a little up in the page. :darrow:

There is probably still just a surface trough with two maxes on it and a couple of corresponding mid-level lows.conditions are only marginal for development aloft,but changes over the past few days have been very subtle,with maybe a trend of some slow organization.
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#402 Postby chadtm80 » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:40 am

NBCintern wrote:I just need to know if this thing is going to be over Daytona JULY 1ST.

They said this weekend into early next week. So at this point. No. Would be long by Daytona by the first
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#403 Postby NBCintern » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:43 am

chadtm80 wrote:
NBCintern wrote:I just need to know if this thing is going to be over Daytona JULY 1ST.

They said this weekend into early next week. So at this point. No. Would be long by Daytona by the first


thanks...
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#404 Postby stormtruth » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:05 pm

Why are there so many peeps on here who seem so negative on development? Not just this blob but there were many people saying Alberto was going to dissipate -- instead it flared up overnight despite the shear and served gourmet crow to several people. Don't you remember last year when nearly every blob seemed to develop? Didn't everything change last year forever or do many of you just think that was a very rare occurence? Didn't last year make climatology useless? Didn't storms strengthen last year despite the shear just like Alberto did already this year? :?:
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#405 Postby jdray » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:15 pm

Last year proved that our understanding of weather is still in its infancy.

We know a lot more now than a few decades ago, but still have a lot more to learn.
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#406 Postby Trader Ron » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:23 pm

stormtruth wrote:Why are there so many peeps on here who seem so negative on development? Not just this blob but there were many people saying Alberto was going to dissipate -- instead it flared up overnight despite the shear and served gourmet crow to several people. Don't you remember last year when nearly every blob seemed to develop? Didn't everything change last year forever or do many of you just think that was a very rare occurence? Didn't last year make climatology useless? Didn't storms strengthen last year despite the shear just like Alberto did already this year? :?:


You have people on here, who think EVERY blob will develop. There are about 130 waves in a given season, out of those waves , 10-15% become a named storm. Yes, i know we had 27 named storms last year. That was a 50 year event, in my opinion.
The Hurricane season starts on August 15th, as far as i'm concerned. That doesn't mean we can't have 3-4 named storms by that time.
One more thing, some on here expected Alberto to become a Hurricane, so there is enough Crow to go around.
:D :D
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#407 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:29 pm

Trader Ron wrote:
stormtruth wrote:Why are there so many peeps on here who seem so negative on development? Not just this blob but there were many people saying Alberto was going to dissipate -- instead it flared up overnight despite the shear and served gourmet crow to several people. Don't you remember last year when nearly every blob seemed to develop? Didn't everything change last year forever or do many of you just think that was a very rare occurence? Didn't last year make climatology useless? Didn't storms strengthen last year despite the shear just like Alberto did already this year? :?:


You have people on here, who think EVERY blob will develop. There are about 130 waves in a given season, out of those waves , 10-15% become a named storm. Yes, i know we had 27 named storms last year. That was a 50 year event, in my opinion.
The Hurricane season starts on August 15th, as far as i'm concerned. That doesn't mean we can't have 3-4 named storms by that time.
One more thing, some on here expected Alberto to become a Hurricane, so there is enough Crow to go around.
:D :D


why August 15th? There have been major hurricanes as early as June in the past.
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#408 Postby Trader Ron » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:32 pm

Yes, there have been major hurricanes in June and July, but very few. Most occur in later August and September.
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#409 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:36 pm

Also August 15 marks the start of the peak of the season.
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#410 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:38 pm

stormtruth wrote:Why are there so many peeps on here who seem so negative on development? Not just this blob but there were many people saying Alberto was going to dissipate -- instead it flared up overnight despite the shear and served gourmet crow to several people. Don't you remember last year when nearly every blob seemed to develop? Didn't everything change last year forever or do many of you just think that was a very rare occurence? Didn't last year make climatology useless? Didn't storms strengthen last year despite the shear just like Alberto did already this year? :?:


Last year was not a normal year. Who says this year will be like last year? Shear is not a guarentee for weakening... it lessened enough to allow Alberto to strengthen in a very divergent and unstable (due to the convective maximum) environment. And remember that not every "blob" develops... the environment is important. I highly doubt that every "blob" last year developed. Don't count on this one doing it either unless the environment becomes more favorable.
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#411 Postby CHRISTY » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:46 pm

You can see on this 72hr map from the GFS, shear is forcast to be on the low side around the bahamas...

72 HR GFS MAP.
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Latest 24hr Shear Tendency
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#412 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:50 pm

Like many in here, I still don't give my full vote of faith toward this system because the environment is not conducive at the moment for development. Nevertheless, the system has gone a step forward today by developing some vortexes at the surface, something that has been missing since the disturbance began to take shape in the Bahamas. At the same time, I won't say that the system wouldn't develop because there's still time for shear to decrease and for the system to have a shot at Beryl. Lets just keep an eye on it for the next few days.
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#413 Postby The Hurricaner » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:03 pm

Can someone provide a link to those GFS, GFDL, NOGAPS, etc. models.
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#415 Postby Trader Ron » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:33 pm

Christy, can't you come up with a few more? j/k.. :lol: :lol:
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#416 Postby storms in NC » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:01 pm

it is funny how one little Blop can get 22 pages
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#417 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:02 pm

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/atl ... BW_sm3.gif

The low should be inland over FL in 72 hours and moving WNW.
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#418 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:02 pm

alomst 22 pages
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#419 Postby wzrgirl1 » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:08 pm

CHRISTY wrote:
jschlitz wrote:
CHRISTY wrote:
Stratusxpeye wrote:Matthew Newman, Sr. Meteorologist, The Weather Channel

Upper-level winds in the Atlantic Basin are rendering any tropical cyclone genesis unlikely over the next day or so. That being said, a cluster of showers is currently just north of the central Bahamas. There is no indication of a surface low at this time and surface pressures are high. This is simply an upper-level low, and winds aloft continue to be hostile for any further development. The area is expected to drift toward the coast of the Southeast over the next few days. This could bring some much-needed rainfall to the region.

Meanwhile, the eastern Pacific is also free from any organized tropical activity.

TWC's Statement made this morning regarding the system.


well i will go with the NHC sayin this area has becoming a bit better organized. :wink:


Don't forget the last part of the NHC's statement. They basically say the same thing as TWC:

UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE CURRENTLY NOT
FAVORABLE
AND ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT...IF ANY...SHOULD BE SLOW TO
OCCUR.

I posted this a little up in the page. :darrow:

There is probably still just a surface trough with two maxes on it and a couple of corresponding mid-level lows.conditions are only marginal for development aloft,but changes over the past few days have been very subtle,with maybe a trend of some slow organization.


Christy,

What does the term two maxes mean?
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#420 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:13 pm

it means two vortexes
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