T.S Ernesto #10 Sat pics, analysis, models thread

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#401 Postby storms in NC » Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:58 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Well things look a little better for Louisiana. I'm quite surprised by the model shifts but it's hard to ignore them. Of course there's still plenty of time and I know the model runs will change again.


I wouldn't hold my breath. It is just floping around still. Everyone is saying wait till monday and they will have a hold on it. It will move back and forth till then.
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#402 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:58 pm

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO TPC/NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONES.

NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER NORTH ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL STORM ERNESTO (AL052006) ON 20060826 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS... ...36 HRS...
060826 1800 060827 0600 060827 1800 060828 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 15.7N 71.2W 17.0N 73.3W 18.1N 75.3W 18.8N 77.2W
BAMM 15.7N 71.2W 16.8N 73.6W 17.8N 75.9W 18.6N 77.8W
A98E 15.7N 71.2W 16.7N 73.3W 17.5N 75.3W 18.4N 77.2W
LBAR 15.7N 71.2W 16.9N 73.2W 18.5N 75.2W 19.9N 77.2W
SHIP 45KTS 54KTS 64KTS 75KTS
DSHP 45KTS 54KTS 64KTS 73KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS... ..120 HRS...
060828 1800 060829 1800 060830 1800 060831 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMD 19.3N 78.9W 20.2N 82.2W 21.1N 85.4W 21.9N 88.2W
BAMM 19.2N 79.6W 20.2N 83.0W 21.1N 85.8W 21.8N 88.0W
A98E 19.6N 79.2W 21.4N 83.6W 23.2N 87.5W 24.3N 89.9W
LBAR 21.1N 78.7W 22.7N 81.4W 23.5N 83.6W 24.4N 84.7W
SHIP 83KTS 96KTS 98KTS 96KTS
DSHP 82KTS 89KTS 91KTS 89KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 15.7N LONCUR = 71.2W DIRCUR = 295DEG SPDCUR = 11KT
LATM12 = 14.6N LONM12 = 69.5W DIRM12 = 284DEG SPDM12 = 10KT
LATM24 = 14.1N LONM24 = 67.1W
WNDCUR = 45KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 40KT
CENPRS = 997MB OUTPRS = 1008MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 100NM RD34SE = 50NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 50NM
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#403 Postby Grease Monkey » Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:58 pm

Agreed. Tracks will change constantly depending a lot on the foward speed of the system, but suprisingly wilma was an exception.
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#404 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:59 pm

Does anyone else notice these models all have Ernesto moving NW when he really isn't right now?
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#405 Postby ROCK » Sat Aug 26, 2006 2:59 pm

Damar91 wrote:I wouldn't worry, though, certain posters say that there is no way this is hitting the Florida peninsula. :roll:




dude, if you are going to pop off like that do it in the PM's....thanks...
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#406 Postby Bailey1777 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:00 pm

Out of all of those A98E is about the closest to what is really happening as far as the set up right now IMO.
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#407 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:00 pm

Damar91 wrote:I wouldn't worry, though, certain posters say that there is no way this is hitting the Florida peninsula. :roll:


There is NO way this is hitting the FL peninsula.
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#408 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:01 pm

how strong is the ridge to the north.....does anybody have the pressure? You would think a strong ridge would be keeping Ernie more West.
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#409 Postby jasons2k » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:01 pm

Kevin_Cho wrote:Woah...guys, can you all fill me in, when did all of the models started to trend to the east? What's going on?


When the GFS went insane. Now the other models are following suit and people are buying into the nonsense - page after page.
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#410 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:01 pm

Scorpion wrote:
Damar91 wrote:I wouldn't worry, though, certain posters say that there is no way this is hitting the Florida peninsula. :roll:


There is NO way this is hitting the FL peninsula.


at this point it is unpredictable
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#411 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:02 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:Does anyone else notice these models all have Ernesto moving NW when he really isn't right now?


http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weathe ... orm_05.gif

Just look at XTRAP, its because of center relocation, but its following these models in the short term. maybe better luck later for you EWG, I'm rooting for you.
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#412 Postby wxman57 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:02 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:Out of all of those A98E is about the closest to what is really happening as far as the set up right now IMO.


And it's not even a real model. It's a climatology model. Doesn't look at what's happening now, just what happened over the decades.
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#413 Postby Damar91 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:03 pm

fact789 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Damar91 wrote:I wouldn't worry, though, certain posters say that there is no way this is hitting the Florida peninsula. :roll:


There is NO way this is hitting the FL peninsula.


at this point it is unpredictable


Finally some sense. That is all I have been trying to say. NOONE knows where this is going to end up. We should make a pact not to look at any models for 24 hours. :lol:
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#414 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:03 pm

dwg71 wrote:
Extremeweatherguy wrote:Does anyone else notice these models all have Ernesto moving NW when he really isn't right now?


http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weathe ... orm_05.gif

Just look at XTRAP, its because of center relocation, but its following these models in the short term. maybe better luck later for you EWG, I'm rooting for you.


you mean for EWG to actually get a storm?
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#415 Postby swimaster20 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:04 pm

Look, we have had the input of many pro-mets that the GFS likely won't verify. It could, but it probably won't. A whole slew of other models are run off of the GFS, so that is why you have many models shifting east. Ya'll shouldn't be jumping on this flip flop yet. Granted, it could verify, but it is highly unlikely.
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#416 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:04 pm

56 kts at the surface via dropsonde
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#417 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:04 pm

Scorpion wrote:
Damar91 wrote:I wouldn't worry, though, certain posters say that there is no way this is hitting the Florida peninsula. :roll:


There is NO way this is hitting the FL peninsula.


Then where is it going to hit? Please let me know in case I need to prepare.
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#418 Postby Damar91 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:05 pm

If we only truly knew.....
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#419 Postby El Nino » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:05 pm

fact789 wrote:56 kts at the surface via dropsonde


Link ?
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#420 Postby Bailey1777 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 3:05 pm

That's IMO why these models this far out are so ridicolous, but people buy them. If they all had said for the past 3 days a direct hit on Galveston I still would have said "what a crock"
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