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#401 Postby canegrl04 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:34 am

I really hope this system spreads the rain around Florida.You guys desperately need it.Meanwhile,we are SICK of the rain in Texas ,although its done wonders for the drought we suffered over the past two years. 8-)
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#402 Postby cpdaman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:34 am

will that shear if it is maintained later this evening result in higher threat for rotating possibly tornadic storms?

i think DEREK or WXMAN alluded to this possibility yesterday
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#403 Postby wjs3 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:36 am

cpdaman wrote:will that shear if it is maintained later this evening result in higher threat for rotating possibly tornadic storms?


Yes, I think so. The lower level shear.

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#404 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:40 am

canegrl04 wrote:I really hope this system spreads the rain around Florida.You guys desperately need it.Meanwhile,we are SICK of the rain in Texas ,although its done wonders for the drought we suffered over the past two years. 8-)


the rain is coming !!!
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#405 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:41 am

Yes, yesterday the NWS did mention the possibility of severe weather due to winds turning with height...
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#406 Postby cpdaman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:44 am

also wsj3 do you think that (severe potential) will be focused on the SW florida coast (closer to the low) or out a few hundred miles to the east

because IMO this low seems poised to move just NW or over tampa bay
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#407 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:45 am

this is a image from the Key west radar

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#408 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:48 am

recon should be taking off any minute
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#409 Postby JonathanBelles » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:49 am

:drools: that picture looks great.
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#410 Postby CL1 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:54 am

Rain just not getting to the ground here in western Broward County...Looking like its about ready though..
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#411 Postby jdray » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:54 am

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
1022 AM EDT FRI JUN 1 2007

...MUCH NEEDED RAINFALL LOOKS TO BE ON THE WAY...

.UPDATE...A LONG WAVE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH SLOWING ADVANCING EWD
THROUGH THE CENTRAL GOMEX IS PUMPING DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE NWD OVER
OUR ZONES WITH MOSTLY CLOUDY SKIES ACROSS THE JAX CWA TODAY. A SFC
LOW IS DEVELOPING BETWEEN THE YUCATAN AND CUBA THIS MORNING...AND
THIS SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK NNE TODAY AS IT GETS PICKED UP BY
THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. MOISTURE ADVECTION AND ISENTROPIC LIFT WILL
EDGE NWD THIS AFTN FROM S FL...AND THE PHASING OF THESE INGREDIENTS
AS WELL AS A MERIDIONALLY ORIENTED UPPER JET WITH RRQ ELONGATED OVER
OUR CWA STILL LOOK FAVORABLE FOR STRATIFORM PRECIP OVER OUR AREA
TONIGHT THROUGH SAT.

MODELS CONTINUE TO CONVERGE ON A SOLUTION SIMILAR TO THE EUROPEAN
MODEL THIS MORNING WHICH FAVORS THE SFC LOW TRACKING NWD AND
CROSSING CENTRAL OR N FL LATE SAT/SAT NIGHT.


This is great news. Heavy rainmakers are what we need.
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#412 Postby cpdaman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:56 am

latest visible shows improved rotation (1515 utc) around the low pressure area

as well as more of a cloud build up just north of low pressure (could be good news for N. FLORIDA and fires)
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#413 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:56 am

That is a center that is becoming more well defined.. i think the NHC is going make it at least a Sub tropical depression or depression or storm when recon gets out there....... as long as it meets the requirements ... of a warm core system ..... meaning( in general) the closer to the center you go the warmer and the higher the dew point

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#414 Postby Noles2006 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:58 am

I am in agreement, Aric.

Still moving North, with the bulk of the rain to the east.

The perfect scenario would be for it to continue drifting N to NNE and make landfall near the big bend as a weak STS or TS, while drenching the peninsula on the way up, and hopefully throwing a little rain my way on the west side.
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#415 Postby cpdaman » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:59 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html

looks like convection is increasing near center as well per infared could get some wind out of this t-bay but rain is a lock
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#416 Postby Stormavoider » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:01 am

cpdaman wrote:latest visible shows improved rotation (1515 utc) around the low pressure area

as well as more of a cloud build up just north of low pressure (could be good news for N. FLORIDA and fires)



Looks real good on this NASA/MSFC loop.
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#417 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:02 am

it still has little way to go..... over all circulation .. is still broad... not too much banding yet in the SW side.. but now is the only time it has left..
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#418 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:03 am

Aric Dunn wrote:That is a center that is becoming more well defined.. i think the NHC is going make it at least a Sub tropical depression or depression or storm when recon gets out there....... as long as it meets the requirements ... of a warm core system ..... meaning( in general) the closer to the center you go the warmer and the higher the dew point

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/3567/rgbhv7.jpg


Same area I was looking at. 23.5N/85.6W. Winds 25-30 kts to the northeast, 5-10 kts south of the low. Maybe NHC will name this one BEFORE it causes any problems. Guess I'm working all weekend....

Enjoy the rain in Florida. Too bad it probably won't get far enough north to put out the big fires in southern Georgia.
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#419 Postby Noles2006 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:04 am

It might, wxman....

::fingers crossed::
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#420 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:08 am

wxman57 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:That is a center that is becoming more well defined.. i think the NHC is going make it at least a Sub tropical depression or depression or storm when recon gets out there....... as long as it meets the requirements ... of a warm core system ..... meaning( in general) the closer to the center you go the warmer and the higher the dew point

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/3567/rgbhv7.jpg


Same area I was looking at. 23.5N/85.6W. Winds 25-30 kts to the northeast, 5-10 kts south of the low. Maybe NHC will name this one BEFORE it causes any problems. Guess I'm working all weekend....

Enjoy the rain in Florida. Too bad it probably won't get far enough north to put out the big fires in southern Georgia.


yep its looking like .. they will here when recon gets out there
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