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#421 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:09 am

RECON is on the runway !!!!

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#422 Postby MWatkins » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:12 am

Looks like there is probably more than one swirl down there around the broader low...not looking overly tropical in satellite imagery (pronounced comma shape with most of the convection well removed from the center)...

Also...vapor imagery shows a lot of dry air from the fron on the western side. If the circulation does become better defined it is likely going to pull some of that in...which should put a lid on development.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/wv-l.jpg

GFS has 30+ knots of southwesterly upper level winds on top of it until it goes over Florida...even through relative shear may be less...it's hard to imagine any strengthening when there is no hint of an outflow...

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#423 Postby DrewFL » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:14 am

So far in Stuart, FL the radar shows light rain but nothing here. Must be virga. Anyone else experiencing this?
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#424 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:15 am

MWatkins wrote:Looks like there is probably more than one swirl down there around the broader low...not looking overly tropical in satellite imagery (pronounced comma shape with most of the convection well removed from the center)...

Also...vapor imagery shows a lot of dry air from the fron on the western side. If the circulation does become better defined it is likely going to pull some of that in...which should put a lid on development.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/wv-l.jpg

GFS has 30+ knots of southwesterly upper level winds on top of it until it goes over Florida...even through relative shear may be less...it's hard to imagine any strengthening when there is no hint of an outflow...

MW


agreed it has some issues... but appearance is not everything.... remember alberto.....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... o_2006.jpg
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#425 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:17 am

cant quite get more comma shaped than that
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#426 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:19 am

While I look at the latest images, 92L appears to be improving its organization. Because of the tight sfc gradient, we may be observing increasing amounts of banding around the LLC. Take a peak at the latest visible loop. Note the strong sfc ridge over the system. This may aid further structural improvement. In addition, the LLC appears to be moving north-northeast (with one brief northward wobble in the latest frames). As the tropospheric trough over Texas moves east, we may observe the continuation of a north-northeast or northeast path.

Based on the latest data, 92L may have a better opportunity for subtropical or hybrid genesis. In addition, does anyone notice some signs of a smaller secondary windfield developing near the LLC?
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#427 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:20 am

DrewFL wrote:So far in Stuart, FL the radar shows light rain but nothing here. Must be virga. Anyone else experiencing this?


Yep Just drove from Stuart to Teq..Not a drop
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#428 Postby DrewFL » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:21 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
DrewFL wrote:So far in Stuart, FL the radar shows light rain but nothing here. Must be virga. Anyone else experiencing this?


Yep Just drove from Stuart to Teq..Not a drop


OK....thanks.
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#429 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:23 am

DrewFL wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
DrewFL wrote:So far in Stuart, FL the radar shows light rain but nothing here. Must be virga. Anyone else experiencing this?


Yep Just drove from Stuart to Teq..Not a drop


OK....thanks.

The heaviest precipitation is primarily affecting the regions south of Fort Lauderdale. Take a look at the Miami radar. The Keys are receiving a nice dosage of rainfall.
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#430 Postby KQ » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:25 am

I am in Downtown Stuart. It is lightly sprinkling.
YAY, bring on the rain.
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#431 Postby Jevo » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:26 am

MWatkins wrote:Looks like there is probably more than one swirl down there around the broader low...not looking overly tropical in satellite imagery (pronounced comma shape with most of the convection well removed from the center)...

Also...vapor imagery shows a lot of dry air from the fron on the western side. If the circulation does become better defined it is likely going to pull some of that in...which should put a lid on development.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/wv-l.jpg

GFS has 30+ knots of southwesterly upper level winds on top of it until it goes over Florida...even through relative shear may be less...it's hard to imagine any strengthening when there is no hint of an outflow...

MW


YOUUUUU you're good you...... Imma get the new H3 gassed up... Lets go chase this bastid :eek: :eek: :eek:

good to see ya back in action
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#432 Postby AnnularCane » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:28 am

Aric Dunn wrote:agreed it has some issues... but appearance is not everything.... remember alberto.....

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I thought at first that this picture was of 92L, and thought it really developed overnight! :P
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#433 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:28 am

Jevo wrote:
MWatkins wrote:Looks like there is probably more than one swirl down there around the broader low...not looking overly tropical in satellite imagery (pronounced comma shape with most of the convection well removed from the center)...

Also...vapor imagery shows a lot of dry air from the fron on the western side. If the circulation does become better defined it is likely going to pull some of that in...which should put a lid on development.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/wv-l.jpg

GFS has 30+ knots of southwesterly upper level winds on top of it until it goes over Florida...even through relative shear may be less...it's hard to imagine any strengthening when there is no hint of an outflow...

MW


YOUUUUU you're good you...... Imma get the new H3 gassed up... Lets go chase this bastid :eek: :eek: :eek:

good to see ya back in action
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HEY JEV's
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#434 Postby B'hamBlazer » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:33 am

As I anticipated, the models seem to be now shifting towards the panhandle/big bend area of Florida...

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#435 Postby Flakeys » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:34 am

It is pouring like crazy down here. We have a lot of wet upset tourists!!

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#436 Postby Jevo » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:35 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Jevo wrote:
MWatkins wrote:Looks like there is probably more than one swirl down there around the broader low...not looking overly tropical in satellite imagery (pronounced comma shape with most of the convection well removed from the center)...

Also...vapor imagery shows a lot of dry air from the fron on the western side. If the circulation does become better defined it is likely going to pull some of that in...which should put a lid on development.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/wv-l.jpg

GFS has 30+ knots of southwesterly upper level winds on top of it until it goes over Florida...even through relative shear may be less...it's hard to imagine any strengthening when there is no hint of an outflow...

MW


YOUUUUU you're good you...... Imma get the new H3 gassed up... Lets go chase this bastid :eek: :eek: :eek:

good to see ya back in action
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HEY JEV's


Aric whats up mannnnn hey we're playing poker at Watkins place tonight come on over ....

Nice to get some rain here....

and I dont feel at all bad about using my sprinklers today!!!!
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#437 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:37 am

lol .. no im in daytona.... you going to be around more this year ?
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#438 Postby Jevo » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:42 am

Aric Dunn wrote:lol .. no im in daytona.... you going to be around more this year ?


you know me.... only when the crap hits the fan... or else ill go dizzy keep up with blobcasts....
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#439 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:43 am

Jevo wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:lol .. no im in daytona.... you going to be around more this year ?


you know me.... only when the crap hits the fan... or else ill go dizzy keep up with blobcasts....


good stuff... i guess i will see you lot this then lol
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#440 Postby Nimbus » Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:44 am

The low level center is focusing the broad circulation. With the models better initialized the west shift in track should be higher confidence.

Still plenty of shear to pull the rain over Florida yet keep the development down below hurricane strength.

Be interesting to see what recon finds.
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