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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#461 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:25 pm

2 PM:

A large area of disturbed weather in the vicinity of the Lesser
Antilles is associated with a tropical wave. Upper-level winds are
expected to become more conducive for development of this
disturbance during the next couple of days, and a tropical
depression could form over the weekend or early next week while the
system moves westward across the central and western Caribbean Sea.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#462 Postby SFLcane » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:27 pm

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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#463 Postby SFLcane » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:32 pm

Very few members into CA.

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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#464 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:37 pm


Needs more spaghetti.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#465 Postby GCANE » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:50 pm

I think this may be the top of the wave

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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#466 Postby underthwx » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:53 pm

GCANE wrote:I think this may be the top of the wave

https://i.imgur.com/qNFE3lt.png


Once the wave reaches the central or western Carribean, is it expected to be stationary?...
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#467 Postby tomatkins » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:55 pm


ITs possible that the low has already dissipated for those members. You really need the tracks in this case.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#468 Postby Blown Away » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:56 pm



Seems all the operational models bury a decent storm into CA.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#469 Postby underthwx » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:58 pm

GCANE wrote:I think this may be the top of the wave

https://i.imgur.com/qNFE3lt.png


Healthy looking wave at this time...I can see why it's at 60 per cent through 5 days...
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#470 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:00 pm

Blown Away wrote:


Seems all the operational models bury a decent storm into CA.


Here you go, many are into CA and a lot less threatening for Florida on this run, just one ensemble gets close.

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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#471 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:02 pm

gatorcane wrote:
Blown Away wrote:


Seems all the operational models bury a decent storm into CA.


Here you go, many are into CA and a lot less threatening for Florida on this run, just one ensemble gets close.

https://i.postimg.cc/qqcBnqvq/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-watl-fh54-198.gif

The ones that don’t go into CA stall out for a bit before moving north. That could be something to watch out for.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#472 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:14 pm


The question is where do they go from there? :wink:

Hard to go against the operational runs when most models now bury this into CA.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#473 Postby SoupBone » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:18 pm

Loveweather12 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:All of the deterministic models are in surprisingly good agreement on the track and take this into Honduras and/or Nicaragua.

Just because we had Zeta defy climatology means this one will too.


Just because the model is saying it’s going to CA doesn’t mean it will. Things change. We still need to watch & plus, do we have a low to track yet???


I don't understand posts like this. He makes a post regarding the models being in fairly good agreement which they are, and he gets the lecture about how models don't determine track. I've never seen a single poster here suggest this.

Then you have others posting analogs such as Hurricane Mitch (1998) and you hear crickets.

We all understand that this is way out there and things change, this type of post only serves to stifle conversation just because it suggests a potential track that is not a US based threat.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#474 Postby Loveweather12 » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:29 pm

SoupBone wrote:
Loveweather12 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:All of the deterministic models are in surprisingly good agreement on the track and take this into Honduras and/or Nicaragua.

Just because we had Zeta defy climatology means this one will too.


Just because the model is saying it’s going to CA doesn’t mean it will. Things change. We still need to watch & plus, do we have a low to track yet???


I don't understand posts like this. He makes a post regarding the models being in fairly good agreement which they are, and he gets the lecture about how models don't determine track. I've never seen a single poster here suggest this.

Then you have others posting analogs such as Hurricane Mitch (1998) and you hear crickets.

We all understand that this is way out there and things change, this type of post only serves to stifle conversation just because it suggests a potential track that is not a US based threat.



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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#475 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:30 pm

12Z Euro through 144 hours:

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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#476 Postby aspen » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:30 pm

Here are the possible outcomes i think could be on the table for Eta:
1.) later development, TS or minor hurricane into CA
2.) quicker development and RI, major into CA
3.) quicker development, strong enough to get caught in the weakness on Day 4, enters NW Caribbean
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#477 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:33 pm

Loveweather12 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:All of the deterministic models are in surprisingly good agreement on the track and take this into Honduras and/or Nicaragua.

Just because we had Zeta defy climatology means this one will too.


Just because the model is saying it’s going to CA doesn’t mean it will. Things change. We still need to watch & plus, do we have a low to track yet???

Models are prone to errors too. But climatology favors odds of a storm or hurricane just moving due west underneath a ridge into Central America. And right now that’s what all deterministic runs show.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#478 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:37 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z Euro through 144 hours:

https://i.postimg.cc/7b8pDn3Q/ecmwf-mslpa-Norm-watl-fh0-144.gif

The trough is just not deep enough to pull this north. The NAO remains positive so that lends credence to the deterministic model runs that move future-Eta into CA.

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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#479 Postby Blinhart » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:43 pm

SFLcane wrote:Once again the GEFS ensembles are away from CA.

https://i.postimg.cc/brHtrqDB/717-E3-FD2-462-B-4-BCD-82-A9-523-AD271-EF52.jpg


That one that is 948 just North of the Bahama's, is scary.
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Re: Area of disturbed weather entering the Caribbean

#480 Postby gatorcane » Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:44 pm

Wow the Euro has this crossing over into the EPAC. :double:

Would we still call it ETA?
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