Hurricane Wilma Recon Discussion Thread

joe_koehle · #481 Postby **joe_koehle** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:55 am

when is recon slated to be in there next?

#482 Postby **cycloneye** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:14 am

Next recon takesoff around 10:00 AM.

superfly · #483 Postby **superfly** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:15 am

I think we could have seen the pressure drop into the 870s if the plane had enough fuel to make one more pass, we'll never know.

DESTRUCTION5 · #484 Postby **DESTRUCTION5** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:22 am

superfly wrote:I think we could have seen the pressure drop into the 870s if the plane had enough fuel to make one more pass, we'll never know.

Noway...EWRC has started...

JamesFromMaine2 · #485 Postby **JamesFromMaine2** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:40 am

superfly wrote:I think we could have seen the pressure drop into the 870s if the plane had enough fuel to make one more pass, we'll never know.

are you sure we will never know? it doesn't look to be weaking right now!

joe_koehle · #486 Postby **joe_koehle** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:41 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
superfly wrote:I think we could have seen the pressure drop into the 870s if the plane had enough fuel to make one more pass, we'll never know.

Noway...EWRC has started...

no it hasn't....she has mainatained virtually the same ir signature all night...and if anything she looks as good as ever. ewrc is still probably 6 hrs away at the soonest

x-y-no · #487 Postby **x-y-no** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:55 am

AF300 ready for takeoff. Let's hope there's no equipment problems this time.

#488 Postby **cycloneye** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:58 am

I hope not Jan.

The big question is what pressure will they find?

Scorpion · #489 Postby **Scorpion** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:58 am

I would be afraid for my life if I was the recon crew. That incredibly small eyewall is only shrinking more and they don't have enough space to maneuver in there.

Rae · #490 Postby **Rae** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:06 am

About how long will it take them to reach the eye?

Website · #491 Postby **Brent** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:10 am

Rae wrote:About how long will it take them to reach the eye?

About 3 hours.

#492 Postby **tailgater** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:12 am

Scorpion wrote:I would be afraid for my life if I was the recon crew. That incredibly small eyewall is only shrinking more and they don't have enough space to maneuver in there.

Just a bit bigger than a tornado with hurricane force winds extending only a short distance from the center.

x-y-no · #493 Postby **x-y-no** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:15 am

cycloneye wrote:I hope not Jan.

The big question is what pressure will they find?

With the cloud tops warming, one has to think the pressure will be up a bit. OTOH, that tiny eye seems to be hanging on, so who knows ...

DESTRUCTION5 · #494 Postby **DESTRUCTION5** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:17 am

JamesFromMaine2 wrote:
superfly wrote:I think we could have seen the pressure drop into the 870s if the plane had enough fuel to make one more pass, we'll never know.

are you sure we will never know? it doesn't look to be weaking right now!

Look at the classic hurricane Symbol imbedded...just Sick

Stormtrack03 · #495 Postby **Stormtrack03** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:27 am

Is their any reason for the delay in the recon plane taking off?

#496 Postby **cycloneye** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:30 am

At 0800Z (2 a.m), they reported a 4 mile eye, and lower pressures yet. The new sea-level pressure was 884 millibars (26.11 in-Hg), measured by a dropsonde instrument. And realize, this was only a Cat 1 (70-mph) hurricane just nine hours earlier! The National Hurricane Center discussions had predicted the storm would intensify, but such "explosive deepening" is still phenomenal to witness.

This moves the rankings of this years storms as follows: Strongest Atlantic basin hurricane on record: Wilma (884 mb); Number 4: Rita (897 mb); Number 6: Katrina (902 mb). These are the strengths of the hurricanes at their peak, not landfall pressures. You can see a list of the strongest landfalling U.S. hurricanes at NHC website.

I haven't spoken to the crew yet, but the experience would certainly have been remarkable. With a pressure field so "tight", the crew would have felt the aircraft descending as they crossed the eyewall into the eye. Looking at the data from the aircraft, they lost 2680 feet of altitude during the eyewall penetration, in the five minutes it took to cross the eyewall into the eye. This is expected, and happens because the aircraft autopilot flies off an altimeter set to "standard" pressures (and this is anything BUT standard); we also have other altimeters that tell us how high we REALLY are, and using both types of altimeters is how we determine the pressures ("height of standard surface") at the flight level. In a "standard" atmopshere, the airplane would be at 10,000 feet, but in Wilma, they bottomed out at 6830 feet.

The above from the Hurricane Hunter site.Link below.

http://www.hurricanehunters.com/

Innotech · #497 Postby **Innotech** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:30 am

wouldnt you be hesitant to enter a storm like that too? :lol:

Andy_L · #498 Postby **Andy_L** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:30 am

yikessss....not so sure it bodes well for them finding the storm when they have been taxi'ing around the airport for the last half hour looking for the runway!!! :lol:

#499 Postby **cycloneye** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:37 am

Yes !!!! Plane is flying.

#500 Postby **cycloneye** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:36 am

Those who live in the west coast of Florida now can go out and see the plane pass over you.Now plane is around 30 miles NE of Tampa.

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