Wave WSW of CV Islands

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#501 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:12 pm

Hmmm, we might have Colin by August 7th(or sooner) afterall...I wasn't so sure last night, but pretty intense cold tops with the rebuilding of the convection.
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#502 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:18 pm

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My forecast as of the 8PM TWO

Chances of Tropical Depression
24 Hours-80%
48 Hours-95%
72 Hours->99%
1 Week->99%

Tropical Storm
24 Hours-40%
48 Hours-70%
72 Hours->99%
1 Week->99%


Hurricane

24 Hours-<1%
48 Hours-5%
72 Hours-25%
1 Week-85%
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#503 Postby ROCK » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:29 pm

without vis or surface obs no way really to determine a LLC but convection has not waned after sunset..and those mighty cold tops..that is a huge indication to me....still embedded in the ITCZ though
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#504 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:31 pm

MandiAltman wrote:
Vortmax1 wrote:
Do I need to buy gas for my generator or what??



Isn't generator fuel part of your hurricane prep plan every season?


Sure, sure! Buying fuel prematurely is a good way to assure that a storm never comes. It's murphy's law. :wink:


i start mine up and let it run for 20 mins, kept ike away
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#505 Postby MandiAltman » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:41 pm

Can any of you suggest a website where I can see the model tracks on this system? Weather Underground stopped posting them.
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#506 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:43 pm

MandiAltman wrote:Can any of you suggest a website where I can see the model tracks on this system? Weather Underground stopped posting them.


Until an invest is redeclared, there won't be any more spaghetti plots available.
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#507 Postby AdamFirst » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:44 pm

MandiAltman wrote:Can any of you suggest a website where I can see the model tracks on this system? Weather Underground stopped posting them.


http://moe.met.fsu.edu/tcgengifs/


It's not the best site but it can suffice. The HWRF and GFDL aren't running the system since the invest was formally canceled.
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#508 Postby AJC3 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:45 pm

ROCK wrote:without vis or surface obs no way really to determine a LLC but convection has not waned after sunset..and those mighty cold tops..that is a huge indication to me....still embedded in the ITCZ though


These are the times that we rue not having Quick-SCAT, since ASCAT passes are so much narrower.

But you touch upon what I think is the main point...that the wave is embedded within a part of the ITCZ that is behaving in a manner not unlike of a WPAC monsoon trough. AFAICT there are at least two vort maxes associated with t-waves that are embedded within this part of the ITCZ. And of course, the C in ITCZ stands for convergence, which is quite strong in this area.

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I don't foresee any sort of rapid spinup occurring in this case, since both (a) the consolidation of winds/convection; and
(b) separation from the ITCZ; tend to be gradual for this type of TC-genesis.
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#509 Postby Countrygirl911 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:47 pm

hi everyone i was wondering when will we know whereit is going and how strong seems like they are taking there time with naming it either invest 90L or Invest 91L or TD. I just hope they give people on the islands enough time to prepare for this thing hopefully by morning they will have this thing somewhat figured out as to give some people a clear look at where it is going and how strong i just pry it does not get in the gulf we really do not need it besides by the time it gets here if it does it will be close to the time i start back to college .
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#510 Postby MandiAltman » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:02 pm

Fact789...that's kind of what I figured but I thought I might be missing something. I'm kind of new to the whole tracking thing. It really is facinating!

AdamFirst...thanks for giving me something to occupy myself with until they redeclare it an invest. 8-) I'm on pins & needles!!!
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#511 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:05 pm

ROCK wrote:without vis or surface obs no way really to determine a LLC but convection has not waned after sunset..and those mighty cold tops..that is a huge indication to me....still embedded in the ITCZ though


I doubt there's anything at the surface yet. Hard to even find a mid-level spin yet. I'd say development chances next 48 hrs are much lower than 40%, maybe 5-10%.
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#512 Postby jaxfladude » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:08 pm

Stay safe y'all!
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#513 Postby HurrMark » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:08 pm

Yeah, without the spin, you're not going to see much development. I think this has a decent shot at development, but probably not before Tuesday or Wednesday.

I am very impressed with the ITCZ, though, especially considering the MJO phase we are in...
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#514 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:14 pm

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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#515 Postby thetruesms » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:17 pm

AJC3 wrote:These are the times that we rue not having Quick-SCAT, since ASCAT passes are so much narrower.

But you touch upon what I think is the main point...that the wave is embedded within a part of the ITCZ that is behaving in a manner not unlike of a WPAC monsoon trough. AFAICT there are at least two vort maxes associated with t-waves that are embedded within this part of the ITCZ. And of course, the C in ITCZ stands for convergence, which is quite strong in this area.

I don't foresee any sort of rapid spinup occurring in this case, since both (a) the consolidation of winds/convection; and
(b) separation from the ITCZ; tend to be gradual for this type of TC-genesis.
Yeah, ASCAT always ends up being more frustrating than anything else

And I think wanting to help people realize this likely won't be a rapid spinup might be a bit like going into the wind :lol:
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#516 Postby Canelaw99 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:18 pm

Oy! Right into central FL coast, and what the heck is that monster storm it shows at the end of the run? Geez Louise...can you imagine the board if THAT thing comes to be? LOL
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#517 Postby StormClouds63 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:20 pm

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Early stages of development ... this should eventually be Colin. As far as track, since it's so early, I see these possible scenarios:

1. Andrew-type track hitting south Florida and then into GOM

2. Floyd-like track coming very close to the east coast of Florida, then skirting the U.S. east coast.

3. Fran-type track with landfall in the Carolinas.

4. Isabel-type track with landfall farther up the U.S. east coast.

5. Fish.

I think #'s 1 and 5 are the least likely, but all of these are possible at this point.

Intensity? Category 2 or 3 storm ... farther south under the ridge, the more intense the storm. Turn to the NW, could get into cooler waters or more hostile upper level environment.

I think we've finally got something to track. Board should stay busy. Ivan, pace yourself and get a little sleep now and then. :wink:
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#518 Postby MandiAltman » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:27 pm

StormClouds63 wrote:The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Early stages of development ... this should eventually be Colin. As far as track, since it's so early, I see these possible scenarios:

1. Andrew-type track hitting south Florida and then into GOM

2. Floyd-like track coming very close to the east coast of Florida, then skirting the U.S. east coast.

3. Fran-type track with landfall in the Carolinas.

4. Isabel-type track with landfall farther up the U.S. east coast.

5. Fish.

I think #'s 1 and 5 are the least likely, but all of these are possible at this point.

Intensity? Category 2 or 3 storm ... farther south under the ridge, the more intense the storm. Turn to the NW, could get into cooler waters or more hostile upper level environment.

I think we've finally got something to track. Board should stay busy. Ivan, pace yourself and get a little sleep now and then. :wink:


Yikes!! Can't wait to see how this plays out!
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#519 Postby knotimpaired » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:29 pm

We were just informed that my husbands ex-wife was diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer.

Please keep those fingers crossed.

:(
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Re: Wave WSW of CV Islands - Code Orange

#520 Postby Riptide » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:35 pm

knotimpaired wrote:We were just informed that my husbands ex-wife was diagnosed with stage four pancreatic cancer.

Please keep those fingers crossed.

:(

I am wishing the best for her but how is this relevant to anything being discussed in this thread?
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