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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#521 Postby Monsoonjr99 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:07 pm

The impression I get from reading through this thread is that of a broken record, lol. Besides the repeatedly aforementioned consolidation of one LLC, I think we should wait until after Kong-Rey's and Walaka's recurvature before the models better resolve how this system pans out.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#522 Postby blp » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:11 pm

Here is the ensembles. Still lots of activity but it has decreased some since the last run.

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#523 Postby SoupBone » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:22 pm

I'm a shear broken record, but I have a hard time believing something will survive the massive wall of 30-50 knots of shear in its path across the Caribbean. If absolutely nothing else this season, shear in that area has been consistent. It has shear nearly all the way to the Florida coast.

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#524 Postby blp » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:27 pm

There clearly a LLC in this loop heading WSW. Getting covered up now by convection. Question now is will it crash into C. America.

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#525 Postby boca » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:33 pm

That low looks like it’s moving west that blp posted. The low could be an eddy as well.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#526 Postby LarryWx » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:39 pm

blp wrote:Here is the ensembles. Still lots of activity but it has decreased some since the last run.

https://image.ibb.co/jtOHzK/us_cyclone_en_087_0_euro_2018100312_15843_481_240.png



blp, keep in mind that 4 more Hs hit FL after day 10 (days 11-13). Your map goes only thru day 10.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#527 Postby boca » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:41 pm

LarryWx wrote:
blp wrote:Here is the ensembles. Still lots of activity but it has decreased some since the last run.

https://image.ibb.co/jtOHzK/us_cyclone_en_087_0_euro_2018100312_15843_481_240.png



blp, keep in mind that 4 more Hs hit FL after day 10 (days 11-13). Your map goes only thru day 10.


From the same area that where looking at or something else forming from Caribbean?
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#528 Postby LarryWx » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:46 pm

boca wrote:
LarryWx wrote:
blp wrote:Here is the ensembles. Still lots of activity but it has decreased some since the last run.

https://image.ibb.co/jtOHzK/us_cyclone_en_087_0_euro_2018100312_15843_481_240.png



blp, keep in mind that 4 more Hs hit FL after day 10 (days 11-13). Your map goes only thru day 10.


From the same area that where looking at or something else forming from Caribbean?



They are of Caribbean origin and are as of day 10 in the Gulf.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#529 Postby Abdullah » Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:49 pm

What's preventing it from developing?
Shear?
From here it doesn't look like it
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That was today
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It looked even better yesterday.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#530 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:28 pm

That small eddy is dissipating. There is very strong wind shear across the Caribbean at present.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#531 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:36 pm

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#532 Postby SFLcane » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:56 pm

wxman57 wrote:That small eddy is dissipating. There is very strong wind shear across the Caribbean at present.


Question: so why do we even have a 30 percent probability of development on this disturbed wx?
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#533 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:01 pm

Seems to be coming together nicely today right around San Andrés island but can the convection sustain
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#534 Postby SFLcane » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:23 pm

Latest TWO.. large cyclonic gyre lol. Still at 30 % with the expectation of upper level winds becoming less hostile.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#535 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:23 pm

A large cyclonic gyre, defined by a broad area of low pressure,
typical of this time of the year, covers a portion of Central
America and the western Caribbean Sea. This system is accompanied
by an extensive area of disorganized clouds and thunderstorms, and
although surface pressures are relatively low in the area,
upper-level winds are currently highly unfavorable for tropical
cyclone formation. Environmental conditions could become less
hostile this weekend and early next week allowing some slow
development in this region as the system drifts northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#536 Postby blp » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:24 pm

FV3 back to showing development.

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#537 Postby Abdullah » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:35 pm

cycloneye wrote:
A large cyclonic gyre, defined by a broad area of low pressure,
typical of this time of the year, covers a portion of Central
America and the western Caribbean Sea. This system is accompanied
by an extensive area of disorganized clouds and thunderstorms, and
although surface pressures are relatively low in the area,
upper-level winds are currently highly unfavorable for tropical
cyclone formation. Environmental conditions could become less
hostile this weekend and early next week allowing some slow
development in this region as the system drifts northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
Stating the obvious, That's up from 20% earlier this morning. Sooo
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#538 Postby gatorcane » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:54 pm

FV3 GFS brings an intensifying hurricane just north of Tampa heading NE:

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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#539 Postby Ken711 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:14 pm

Abdullah wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
A large cyclonic gyre, defined by a broad area of low pressure,
typical of this time of the year, covers a portion of Central
America and the western Caribbean Sea. This system is accompanied
by an extensive area of disorganized clouds and thunderstorms, and
although surface pressures are relatively low in the area,
upper-level winds are currently highly unfavorable for tropical
cyclone formation. Environmental conditions could become less
hostile this weekend and early next week allowing some slow
development in this region as the system drifts northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
Stating the obvious, That's up from 20%.


Not really. That's the same 30% that was given in the 2:00 PM NHC Outlook.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the Western Caribbean Sea

#540 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:28 pm

Looking at the satellite pic it looks like the system is taking shape SE of the eddy we were following earlier
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