Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

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#521 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:26 pm

Cyclone1 wrote:What about that back up site that I never seem to remember to bookmark? Is that one down?


Link to backup site,but this has been out for weeks.

http://tcweb.fnmoc.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_home.cgi
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#522 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:31 pm

NEW TROPICAL STORM FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 36 HOURS

FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 36 : 26.7N 85.7W



VERIFYING TIME POSITION STRENGTH TENDENCY

-------------- -------- -------- --------

00UTC 03.10.2007 26.7N 85.7W WEAK

12UTC 03.10.2007 26.4N 87.9W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE

00UTC 04.10.2007 26.4N 89.2W WEAK LITTLE CHANGE

12UTC 04.10.2007 27.4N 90.8W WEAK INTENSIFYING SLIGHTLY

00UTC 05.10.2007 29.1N 91.0W WEAK WEAKENING SLIGHTLY

12UTC 05.10.2007 BELOW TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH


12z UKMET

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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#523 Postby frederic79 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:33 pm

Has anyone noticed that the NHC GOES-East Caribbean animation shows a 1009 mb surface low centered just east of Miami (select NWS fronts option).
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#524 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:38 pm

frederic79 wrote:Has anyone noticed that the NHC GOES-East Caribbean animation shows a 1009 mb surface low centered just east of Miami (select NWS fronts option).

Weak sfc low mentioned in the TWO also. Things could get interesting soon.
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#525 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:44 pm

12z CMC

:uarrow: :uarrow:

The Canadian model has a one-two punch for the GOM?

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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#526 Postby x-y-no » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:50 pm

cycloneye wrote:12z CMC

:uarrow: :uarrow:

The Canadian model has a one-two punch for the GOM?

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Heh ... that second one looks like Rita reborn ...

Thank God it's just the Canadian model ...
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#527 Postby hurricanetrack » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:51 pm

Looks like it takes laftovers of Karen and rolls up extreme south Florida after what ever the heck is going to brew this week.

If, if, if, if, if the Canadian model were to be right on this exact run, well, that would be bad, bad, bad, bad.
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#528 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:51 pm

:uarrow: I swear the CMC provides better entertainment that Saturday Night Live.

(EDIT: Which isn't saying much...)
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#529 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:53 pm

And SNL isn't what it's used to be...CMC is a JOKE
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#530 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:57 pm

Canadian Meteorological Centre (CMC) Global Environmental Multiscale Model (GEM)

The CMC's GEM is a hydrostatic global grid point model laid on a latitude/longitude coordinate system with 0.3 latitude-0.45 longitude (approximately 33 km at 49 degrees latitude) horizontal grid spacing and 58 vertical eta levels. The eta vertical coordinate system used in the CMC's GEM depicts the bottom atmospheric layer within each grid box as a flat step. The CMC's GEM employs an advanced and computationally expensive four-dimensional data assimilation scheme (4-D Var) where temporal variations in the initial data are included. The condensation package includes the Kain-Fritsch scheme for deep moist convection and Kuo Transient scheme for shallow convection. The Bougeault and Lacarrere (1989) mixing length is used for vertical diffusion due to atmospheric turbulence. The CMC's GEM is run through 144 hours at 12 UTC, 240 hours at 00 UTC, and 360 hours on Saturdays. The CMC's GEM has limited ability to provide useful intensity forecasts.

http://www.smc-msc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/op_syst ... ent_e.html

Above is what the Canadian model does.At link above is the information about an upgrade that they made to this model.
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#531 Postby Wx_Warrior » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:01 pm

Good read. Still sucks
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#532 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:07 pm

TPC Marine Weather Discussion says nothing happens

(Releveant portion only)

SURFACE...
FRONT EXTENDS FROM 31N70W TO ACROSS THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS AND
OVER THE YUCATAN CHANNEL WITH A STRONG RIDGE NORTH OF THE AREA.
THE FRONT WILL SLOWLY MOVE NORTH AS A LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS OVER
THE WESTERN BAHAMAS AND MOVES WEST TONIGHT. THE LOW WILL MOVE
THROUGH THE STRAITS OF FLORIDA THROUGH TONIGHT AND OVER THE
SOUTHEAST GULF OF MEXICO. THE RIDGE WILL WEAKEN AND THE STRONG
WINDS NORTH OF THE FRONT WILL DECREASE TUESDAY. THE LOW WILL
MOVE NORTH THROUGH THE CENTRAL GULF WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY AND
INLAND OVER THE CENTRAL NORTH GULF COAST FRIDAY. THE LOW IS NOT
FORECAST TO DEVELOP AND WILL BEGIN TO WEAKEN AS IT MOVES
NORTH
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#533 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:08 pm

2:05 PM TWD:

ATLANTIC OCEAN...
THE UPPER TROUGH EXTENDS FROM THE UPPER LOW OVER W CUBA AND
YUCATAN CHANNEL ACROSS S FLORIDA INTO THE W ATLC TO NEAR 29N75W.
A REMNANT FRONTAL BOUNDARY EXTENDS INTO THE REGION NEAR BERMUDA
SW OVER THE EXTREME N BAHAMA ISLANDS THROUGH THE FLORIDA STRAITS
INTO THE NW CARIBBEAN ACROSS W CUBA. HEAVY SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS
ARE WITHIN 130 NM N OF THIS BOUNDARY W OF 76W ACROSS ABACO AND
GRAND BAHAMA ISLANDS AND OVER SE FLORIDA. A SURFACE TROUGH
EXTENDS FROM 27N75W THROUGH A 1009 MB LOW IN THE BAHAMAS NEAR
24N77W CONTINUING S ACROSS CENTRAL CUBA INTO THE CARIBBEAN.


http://www.storm2k.org/wx/modules.php?n ... ge&pid=109
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#534 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:09 pm

Cyclone1 wrote::uarrow: I swear the CMC provides better entertainment that Saturday Night Live.

(EDIT: Which isn't saying much...)


That Canadian hit on Miami would require a new Saffir Simpson Scale Number, a Category 7!
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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#535 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:10 pm

It looks like there's a broad low-level circulation over northern Andros Island, Bahamas. It's moving slowly W per this loop. It's situated near the TWD's 1009 mb Bahamian sfc low position.

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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#536 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:13 pm

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Re: Tropical Development at Bahamas / GOM in comming days?

#537 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:14 pm

I was just about to post that miami - clear low pressure system just north of Andros Island - moving slowly west. High shear over it but it looks to be at the surface.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satellite/displaySat.php?region=TPA&itype=vis&size=large&endDate=20071001&endTime=-1&duration=3
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#538 Postby fci » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:15 pm

Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Cyclone1 wrote::uarrow: I swear the CMC provides better entertainment that Saturday Night Live.

(EDIT: Which isn't saying much...)


That Canadian hit on Miami would require a new Saffir Simpson Scale Number, a Category 7!


Still recovering from the CMC hurricane that was supposed to hit here on 8/23.
As I recall, we did get a gust to about 10 mph that afternoon. :P
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#539 Postby caneman » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:16 pm

And buoy support. Lookt at this pressure drop!

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=SPGF1
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#540 Postby seaswing » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:17 pm

fci wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Cyclone1 wrote::uarrow: I swear the CMC provides better entertainment that Saturday Night Live.

(EDIT: Which isn't saying much...)


That Canadian hit on Miami would require a new Saffir Simpson Scale Number, a Category 7!


Still recovering from the CMC hurricane that was supposed to hit here on 8/23.
As I recall, we did get a gust to about 10 mph that afternoon. :P


:roflmao: Good One!
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