Andrew's Florida landfall downgraded to Category Four?

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#61 Postby Pearl River » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:32 pm

Don't get me started about Camille and the lack of pictures not showing damage. We've been thru this before. There were no wind instruments available where Camille came ashore. The NHC's final report say's winds up to 190 mph at landfall and that's that.
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#62 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:36 pm

Nice work CVW, we night need it again too
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#63 Postby Javlin » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:42 pm

Whoever was responsible for the state of the levees and the existence of the MRGO is really responsible for that, not Katrina. If it weren't for all that, most of those floodwaters wouldn't even have happened, storm or no storm............................And I would have to submise that the next time a town gets hit by a tornado,earthquake ,sunami and etc... they should not have built it there.Geez please!
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#64 Postby DanKellFla » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:43 pm

timNms, I think I was unclear. Yes, there are 1300+ people dead. Somebody typed that they were surprised that so few died from Andrew, but not from Katrina. It is my personal belief that if the storm killed very few. I get this from watching the news reports immediately after Katriana. N.O. didn't look leveled. When the floods happend, that is when I believe that most of the deaths occured. And, from the resulting chaotic response from officials.
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#65 Postby mtm4319 » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:43 pm

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#66 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:45 pm

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#67 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:45 pm

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#68 Postby Normandy » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:46 pm

DanKellFla wrote:timNms, I think I was unclear. Yes, there are 1300+ people dead. Somebody typed that they were surprised that so few died from Andrew, but not from Katrina. It is my personal belief that if the storm killed very few. I get this from watching the news reports immediately after Katriana. N.O. didn't look leveled. When the floods happend, that is when I believe that most of the deaths occured. And, from the resulting chaotic response from officials.


How can you say that Katrina isn't responsible for NO deaths? Lake Pont. didn't flood the city by itself.
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#69 Postby Javlin » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:46 pm

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#70 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:49 pm

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#71 Postby DanKellFla » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:57 pm

Hurricane Floyd, Arghhhh, I am being misunderstood. The floods were caused by Katrina which caused the deaths. But if the levies held, I think there would have been a surprisingly small loss of life. But, there is no real way to prove this.

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#72 Postby Normandy » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:58 pm

DanKellFla wrote:Hurricane Floyd, Arghhhh, I am being misunderstood. The floods were caused by Katrina which caused the deaths. But if the levies held, I think there would have been a surprisingly small loss of life. But, there is no real way to prove this.

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200+ in MS died...... thats proof you are wrong.
Do some math, and figure out how many more deaths that is than Andrew's count.
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#73 Postby PTPatrick » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:01 pm

Ok...you can argue that the 1300 deaths werent directly from Katrina...but the 200+ deaths on the mississippi coast WERE, and I am sure many of the ones in Louisiana were as well. Remember Mississippi had no "afterflood" like new orleans...the deaths there DO speak for the strength of the storm and its surge. And just so you know, I cant remember exact numbers, but there were deaths before the levee failures, I know in the areas southeast of New Orleans, as well as areas like Slidell.
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#74 Postby DanKellFla » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:03 pm

Vandora, I thought that area was about 10 miles north of where the eye hit. I guess I could be wrong. My parents were in Plantation. I was living in Boca Raton at that time. My parents had power back the next day. Somebody once said that Andrew was a 25 mile wide tornado. From what I saw, that seemed to be the case. I could drive down the turnpike and things looked bad. Then, it looked totally devastated. There didn't seem to be a large transition area. It just got terrible quickly.
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#75 Postby all_we_know_is_FALLING » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:10 pm

DanKellFla wrote:Hurricane Floyd, Arghhhh, I am being misunderstood. The floods were caused by Katrina which caused the deaths. But if the levies held, I think there would have been a surprisingly small loss of life. But, there is no real way to prove this.

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You are wrong on one thing. Even if you subtract all LA deaths from Katrina you are still left with 200+ deaths from the MGC. 200 deaths is a large number of fatalities. 200 deaths is not a "surprisingly" small loss of life.

And if the levees held, the death toll in LA would have been much lower, but they didn't. They failed DIRECTLY due to the surge of Katrina. Therefore the deaths were caused by the hurricane.
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#76 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:11 pm

Hello!!!!,The thread topic is about Hurricane Andrew and not about other themes not related to Andrew.
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#77 Postby DanKellFla » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:16 pm

all_we_know_is_FALLING, that is why I included "If" in my sentence.

And 200+ outside of NO? Wow, that is incredible. I never picked up on that. I mostly read about N.O. flood deaths. I guess it really is amazing that so few people died in Andrew.
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#78 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:17 pm

DanKellFla wrote:all_we_know_is_FALLING, that is why I included "If" in my sentence.

And 200+ outside of NO? Wow, that is incredible. I never picked up on that. I mostly read about N.O. flood deaths. I guess it really is amazing that so few people died in Andrew.


The theme is about Hurricane Andrew and not other themes.
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#79 Postby all_we_know_is_FALLING » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:18 pm

It's okay, DanKellFla. I assume that everyone knows of the loss of life and devastation outide of NO. Yes, there was a major loss of life along the MS Gulf Coast.

It really is amazing that there was a relatively low death toll during Andrew.

I wonder if this can be attributed to a better evacuation? I don't know really.
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#80 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:20 pm

all_we_know_is_FALLING wrote:It's okay, DanKellFla. I assume that everyone knows of the loss of life and devastation outide of NO. Yes, there was a major loss of life along the MS Gulf Coast.

It really is amazing that there was a relatively low death toll during Andrew.

I wonder if this can be attributed to a better evacuation? I don't know really.


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