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#61 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:20 am

Sanibel wrote:This is a system that is strengthening under shear in the east Caribbean - a place known for not supporting sheared systems.

It has nothing ahead of it but the untapped west Caribbean and prime August Gulf of Mexico that supports storms like Camille in August historically.

You tell me.

By the way, Gulf temperature off Sanibel: 89*


is there a place that is known for supporting sheared sytems?
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#62 Postby caneman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:23 am

jlauderdal wrote:
Sanibel wrote:This is a system that is strengthening under shear in the east Caribbean - a place known for not supporting sheared systems.

It has nothing ahead of it but the untapped west Caribbean and prime August Gulf of Mexico that supports storms like Camille in August historically.

You tell me.

By the way, Gulf temperature off Sanibel: 89*


is there a place that is known for supporting sheared sytems?
yeah, typically the East Caribbis is known as a graveyard for tropical systems
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#63 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:37 am

Keep telling myself to think short-term...

But the eastward bias is taking form.
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#64 Postby HollynLA » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:41 am

Stratos
Yesterday is was a western bias, then north central GOM bias, now eastern bias (don't really know that I would call it that yet) but my point is that it will continue to change daily for atleast the next 3 days so stay vigilent and don't consider yourself safe until it's inland.
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#65 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:46 am

Bad feeling NO eastward could be in some trouble guys....
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#66 Postby Wx_Warrior » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:47 am

wow...gfs had it a cat 4 hitting galveston on thursday...now take a look

http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/plots/storm_05.gif
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#67 Postby Starburst » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:48 am

HollynLA wrote:Stratos
Yesterday is was a western bias, then north central GOM bias, now eastern bias (don't really know that I would call it that yet) but my point is that it will continue to change daily for atleast the next 3 days so stay vigilent and don't consider yourself safe until it's inland.


especially since it is not gaining much lattitude I even read someones post that said it may have lost a bit of lattitude.
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#68 Postby HURAKAN » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:49 am

Wx_Warrior wrote:wow...gfs had it a cat 4 hitting galveston on thursday...now take a look

http://www.sfwmd.gov/org/omd/ops/weather/plots/storm_05.gif


Usually when I look at the GFDL model is for the track forecast and not the intensity, but as you say, it was a big shift from Galveston to almost Pensacola.
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#69 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:50 am

I went to bed last night and Ernesto had a tiny bit of deep convection that concerned me. Now it has expanded significantly. I don't like that trend.
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#70 Postby HollynLA » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:50 am

Exactly Starburst. These models with continue to shift all around and I don't think the NHC or the models will have a good hold on Ernesto until we're about 72 hours out. Right now, it's shifting all over the place.
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#71 Postby caneman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:56 am

Looks to me like shear is starting to get to it. Looks exposed on the Western side
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#72 Postby TSmith274 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:58 am

We all know the NHC is very deliberate in their forecasts. However, I can't see how they can avoid shifting the forecast track eastward a bit. I'm starting to get a little worried. At some point, I believe they will indeed target the New Orleans area. I'm just not looking forward to the hype. However, I personally expect the track to continue to shift eastward, perhaps to the MS/AL state line. Time will tell.
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#73 Postby soonertwister » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:05 am

Seems to me that the LLC must have relocated well west of the former fix, because the latest fix seems to indicate pretty unlikely forward motion in the last 12 hours. Am I just blowing bubbles here?
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#74 Postby caneman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:08 am

06 GFS looks South of PEnsacola moving North although not that strong
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#75 Postby cpdaman » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:33 am

when u look at the nhc site the western atlantic view gives u a larger PERSPECTIVE to view ernesto from and u can get a good idea of how much shear this storm has to fight. the ULL just nw or jamiaca doesn't seem to be in a hurry to move and ernesto's game of catch up with it's llc seems like it will get a bit more challenging later today

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

gulf coasters this shear could save u this time
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#76 Postby Mac » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:36 am

caneman wrote:Looks to me like shear is starting to get to it. Looks exposed on the Western side


Actually, I'm now seeing outflow improving on the western side of the storm--an indiciation, to me, that shear is becoming less of an issue. I'm still prediciting cat 1 by the end of the day today...or very close to it. Looks like he's locked and loaded and ready for business.
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#77 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:36 am

I believe Ernesto has slowed down...
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#78 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:37 am

cpdaman wrote:when u look at the nhc site the western atlantic view gives u a larger PERSPECTIVE to view ernesto from and u can get a good idea of how much shear this storm has to fight. the ULL just nw or jamiaca doesn't seem to be in a hurry to move and ernesto's game of catch up with it's llc seems like it will get a bit more challenging later today

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

gulf coasters this shear could save u this time


Appears to be entering the increased shear at 72W, looks really affected on the west side, lets hope it takes a beating.
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#79 Postby dwg71 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:38 am

Scorpion wrote:I believe Ernesto has slowed down...


I believe its just the west side being supressed...
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#80 Postby Scorpion » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:39 am

dwg71 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:I believe Ernesto has slowed down...


I believe its just the west side being supressed...


No, recon supported this significantly.
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