Hurricane Helene,Analysis,Sat Pics,Models Thread
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From the NWS "Major League" office in Melbourne, FL
2:10 p.m. 9-15-06
THE LATEST GFS HANDLES SHORTWAVE DROPPING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DIFFERENTLY ON TUE/WED. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS FEATURE BUT NOW IS DROPPING THE SHORTWAVE FURTHER SOUTH TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST U.S. THIS IS MORE INLINE WITH THE 00Z UKMET AND ECMWF.
THE LATEST RUN SHOWS FRONTAL BOUNDARY CONTINUING TO HANG UP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA THU/FRI...BUT THE BOUNDARY IS MUCH WEAKER AS FLAT RIDGING IS INDICATED ALOFT RATHER THAN AN APPROACHING SHORT
WAVE.

2:10 p.m. 9-15-06
THE LATEST GFS HANDLES SHORTWAVE DROPPING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DIFFERENTLY ON TUE/WED. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS FEATURE BUT NOW IS DROPPING THE SHORTWAVE FURTHER SOUTH TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST U.S. THIS IS MORE INLINE WITH THE 00Z UKMET AND ECMWF.
THE LATEST RUN SHOWS FRONTAL BOUNDARY CONTINUING TO HANG UP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA THU/FRI...BUT THE BOUNDARY IS MUCH WEAKER AS FLAT RIDGING IS INDICATED ALOFT RATHER THAN AN APPROACHING SHORT
WAVE.
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AnnularCane wrote:Any reason the floater still isn't on Helene?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/avn-l.jpg
Here it is.

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AnnularCane wrote:Any reason the floater still isn't on Helene?
The Floater is on Helene!!!
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/float3.html
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HURAKAN wrote:AnnularCane wrote:Any reason the floater still isn't on Helene?
The Floater is on Helene!!!
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/float3.html
You have to go through SSD's home page though. It should be on one of the floaters on the NHC page, instead of the "Remants of Florence".
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/trop-atl.html
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sfwx wrote:From the NWS "Major League" office in Melbourne, FL
2:10 p.m. 9-15-06
THE LATEST GFS HANDLES SHORTWAVE DROPPING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DIFFERENTLY ON TUE/WED. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS FEATURE BUT NOW IS DROPPING THE SHORTWAVE FURTHER SOUTH TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST U.S. THIS IS MORE INLINE WITH THE 00Z UKMET AND ECMWF.
THE LATEST RUN SHOWS FRONTAL BOUNDARY CONTINUING TO HANG UP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA THU/FRI...BUT THE BOUNDARY IS MUCH WEAKER AS FLAT RIDGING IS INDICATED ALOFT RATHER THAN AN APPROACHING SHORT
WAVE.
Im seeing 2 different Camps Again with the models...
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/ ... early1.png
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DESTRUCTION5 wrote:sfwx wrote:From the NWS "Major League" office in Melbourne, FL
2:10 p.m. 9-15-06
THE LATEST GFS HANDLES SHORTWAVE DROPPING INTO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST DIFFERENTLY ON TUE/WED. PREVIOUSLY IT WAS PROGRESSIVE WITH THIS FEATURE BUT NOW IS DROPPING THE SHORTWAVE FURTHER SOUTH TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST U.S. THIS IS MORE INLINE WITH THE 00Z UKMET AND ECMWF.
THE LATEST RUN SHOWS FRONTAL BOUNDARY CONTINUING TO HANG UP ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PENINSULA THU/FRI...BUT THE BOUNDARY IS MUCH WEAKER AS FLAT RIDGING IS INDICATED ALOFT RATHER THAN AN APPROACHING SHORT
WAVE.
Im seeing 2 different Camps Again with the models...
http://euler.atmos.colostate.edu/~vigh/ ... early1.png
Yeah, even the Lbar. Wasn't that the one earlier that had it way North out to sea? Looks like the models might be having a harder time with this after 5 days.
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The only question about Helenes track is if it will get close to Bermuda.
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Now it's getting serious about absorbing the blob that's been out to its east:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-rb.html
More fuel for the fire?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/loop-rb.html
More fuel for the fire?
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curtadams wrote:Very hard to tell motion at this stage, but it now looks to be moving more N than W. Maybe the ultra-early recurve will happen after all.
This is funny!!...I've been looking at the vis loop and it seems to me that's moving more west than north..Maybe it IS like the NHC says and is moving WNW....

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I don't understand the NOGAPS. What is it showing that the GFS is not?
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/CGI/PUBLIC/w ... 2006091512
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/CGI/PUBLIC/w ... 2006091512
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SouthFloridawx wrote:I don't understand the NOGAPS. What is it showing that the GFS is not?
https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/CGI/PUBLIC/w ... 2006091512
From the 18z. Look at the West motion towards the end of run before heading back NW. Interesting.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.c ... =Animation
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