2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#621 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:19 pm

This is looong range. GFS with a hurricane making landfall in South Carolina on the 16th.

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Re: 2023 Indicators (SST, SAL, MSLP, Wind shear, Steering, Instability) and Day 16+ Models

#622 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:20 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:Latest GFS (12z) in fantasyland range is modeling a similar setup to the Euro Ensembles.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2023073112/gfs_mslp_pcpn_atl_62.png

https://i.ibb.co/wKFTmc1/Euro-Ensembles-0731.jpg

Second full week in August looks to be active.


To let you know that merged your post to this thread.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#623 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:23 pm

This wave is one to watch rolls of africa in 2- 3 days.

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Re: 2023 Indicators (SST, SAL, MSLP, Wind shear, Steering, Instability) and Day 16+ Models

#624 Postby zzzh » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:41 pm

lsuhurricane wrote:Latest GFS (12z) in fantasyland range is modeling a similar setup to the Euro Ensembles.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2023073112/gfs_mslp_pcpn_atl_62.png

https://i.ibb.co/wKFTmc1/Euro-Ensembles-0731.jpg

Second full week in August looks to be active.

But with completely different origin. EPS has it formed from a tropical wave (CMC also shows this), while the GFS has it formed from a non tropical low.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#625 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:53 pm

cycloneye wrote:This is looong range. GFS with a hurricane making landfall in South Carolina on the 16th.

https://i.imgur.com/UGYghGv.gif


It's a done deal, then. The GFS has never predicted a spurious U.S. hurricane hit at hour 384. Better evacuate the Carolinas now.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#626 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:34 pm

wxman57 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:This is looong range. GFS with a hurricane making landfall in South Carolina on the 16th.

https://i.imgur.com/UGYghGv.gif


It's a done deal, then. The GFS has never predicted a spurious U.S. hurricane hit at hour 384. Better evacuate the Carolinas now.


What do you think about activity in August?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#627 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:40 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:This is looong range. GFS with a hurricane making landfall in South Carolina on the 16th.

https://i.imgur.com/UGYghGv.gif


It's a done deal, then. The GFS has never predicted a spurious U.S. hurricane hit at hour 384. Better evacuate the Carolinas now.


What do you think about activity in August?


 https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/766981155262300160


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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#628 Postby rickcorvin » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:49 pm

wxman57 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:This is looong range. GFS with a hurricane making landfall in South Carolina on the 16th.

https://i.imgur.com/UGYghGv.gif


It's a done deal, then. The GFS has never predicted a spurious U.S. hurricane hit at hour 384. Better evacuate the Carolinas now.

I don’t think that’s what cycloneye was saying. On this thread in particular I think most cast a skeptical eye toward 16 day+ forecasts. As an amateur (non met), i don’t place much confidence in any particular model after 4 or 5 days, especially pre storm genesis. This thread, to me anyway, is about squinting for signals on the horizon.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#629 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:54 am

rickcorvin wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:This is looong range. GFS with a hurricane making landfall in South Carolina on the 16th.

https://i.imgur.com/UGYghGv.gif


It's a done deal, then. The GFS has never predicted a spurious U.S. hurricane hit at hour 384. Better evacuate the Carolinas now.

I don’t think that’s what cycloneye was saying. On this thread in particular I think most cast a skeptical eye toward 16 day+ forecasts. As an amateur (non met), i don’t place much confidence in any particular model after 4 or 5 days, especially pre storm genesis. This thread, to me anyway, is about squinting for signals on the horizon.


I know that he wasn't saying that it would happen. Looks like landfall changed to Tampico, MX at 00Z and New Orleans at 06Z.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#630 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:31 am

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#631 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:10 am


2nd time this season a GFS product has nailed sofla, sept oct should be good for at least 2 more model canes hitting below the lake.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#632 Postby Blown Away » Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:39 am

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GEFS... Usually the safest place to be is the GFS/GEFS landfall point after 300 hours... :D
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#633 Postby Jr0d » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:06 am

Blown Away wrote:[url]https://i.postimg.cc/wvGGDLcD/32698870.gif [/url]
GEFS... Usually the safest place to be is the GFS/GEFS landfall point after 300 hours... :D


That did not work out well for Irma:(

I have noticed the CMC is even more bullish than the GFS on this one.

Until the wave is in the open water, any development is pure speculation of course. Guessing a potential landfall is exactly that.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#634 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:09 am

Does anyone has the wave pinpointed inside Africa to see when it will emerge?
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#635 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:18 am

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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#636 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:28 am

Canadian chiming in with some activity after really being pro development of anything this season so far.
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2023 Indicators (SST, SAL, MSLP, Wind shear, Steering, Instability) and Day 16+ Models

#637 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:38 am

Global models are really bad right now. Check the Dora thread.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#638 Postby USTropics » Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:07 pm

cycloneye wrote:Does anyone has the wave pinpointed inside Africa to see when it will emerge?


The wave axis the CMC and some GFS ensembles are developing appears to be along 2W currently (highlighted in pink in below analysis):
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The 12z CMC has the most organized vorticity (roughly highlighted in pink in the animation below) with the AEW emerging off the coast on Friday:
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#639 Postby Category5Kaiju » Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:36 pm

00z CMC at it again with a compact, bona fide TC just north of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands by August 12.
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Re: 2023 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out thru day 16)

#640 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:54 am

EPS waking up this morning...

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