Global Model Runs for W.Caribbean Early Season Development

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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#701 Postby Eyewall » Mon May 26, 2008 5:02 pm

Movement very slow on this run steering currents still weak.
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#702 Postby Vortex » Mon May 26, 2008 5:03 pm

100 miles with this system may make all the difference in the early stages!
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#703 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon May 26, 2008 5:05 pm

Vortex wrote:100 miles with this system may make all the difference in the early stages!


Not really...this pattern is just like '06 and '07....there is just too much ridging in the GOM...nothing can penetrate a 588 or 584 dm ridge at 500 mb...sorry....it just ain't gonna happen...
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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#704 Postby Eyewall » Mon May 26, 2008 5:05 pm

High pressure very strong on this run so far.
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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#705 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon May 26, 2008 5:05 pm

Possible crossing into the eastern tropical Pacific or southern Bay of Campeche is suggested.
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Re: GFS (Western Caribbean) Early Season Development?

#706 Postby NDG » Mon May 26, 2008 5:06 pm

NDG wrote:
Ed Mahmoud wrote:Supporting the East Pac instead of Caribbean basin, is a pre-existing blob in the East Pac, and not in the Caribbean.

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Watch the Caribbean burst in convection by early to mid next week, until then nothing.


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So far everything that the gfs has been coming out for more than a week has been materializing.
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#707 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon May 26, 2008 5:07 pm

I would be watching the tropical wave over Venezuela more than anything folks...I mean...the blob down there now is probably not the one that is going to develop...
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#708 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon May 26, 2008 5:08 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:I would be watching the tropical wave over Venezuela more than anything folks...I mean...the blob down there now is probably not the one that is going to develop...

The wave axis and weak convergence line is going to interact with the surface trough in the southern Caribbean.
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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#709 Postby KWT » Mon May 26, 2008 5:10 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:Possible crossing into the eastern tropical Pacific or southern Bay of Campeche is suggested.


I doubt it because the high is weakening to the north, it certainly could end up crossing inland though over the Yucatan but the general trend should still be generally northwards in the longer term.
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#710 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon May 26, 2008 5:11 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:I would be watching the tropical wave over Venezuela more than anything folks...I mean...the blob down there now is probably not the one that is going to develop...

The wave axis and weak convergence line is going to interact with the surface trough in the southern Caribbean.


Correct....that is what I am saying...dont watch the blob down there now...the wave over Venezuela has to converge with the surface trough that is dying now before anything will spin up...
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#711 Postby RL3AO » Mon May 26, 2008 5:11 pm

Like I said last night, the EPac has had a May storm every year since 1999. Looks like the streak will probably end this year.
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#712 Postby NDG » Mon May 26, 2008 5:11 pm

Actually on this run there is a slight weakness in the ridge over the west central gulfcoast
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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#713 Postby Ivanhater » Mon May 26, 2008 5:12 pm

Only spends a brief time over land..back over water..
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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#714 Postby Eyewall » Mon May 26, 2008 5:13 pm

I have been saying it all along I think this system is going to go against what climatology says it should do this time of year. :spam: 8-)
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#715 Postby Opal storm » Mon May 26, 2008 5:14 pm

I'm about to jump off this bandwagon, I don't see anything significant coming out of this anymore. Too much land to deal with and not very favorable conditions aloft either. Unless that ridge breaks down and gives it more room to work with it's just going to get sheared off to the west into Mexico and be a big rain maker. May have a brief window of opportunity off the Yucatan before going inland though.
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#716 Postby Vortex » Mon May 26, 2008 5:15 pm

Back of over water..Gulf of Honduras


H+108

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_108l.gif
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Re: Global Model runs for W.Caribbean=18z GFS Rolling in

#717 Postby Eyewall » Mon May 26, 2008 5:16 pm

very well organized after coming off of the land. :flag:
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#718 Postby MiamiensisWx » Mon May 26, 2008 5:17 pm

Opal storm wrote:I'm about to jump off this bandwagon, I don't see anything significant coming out of this anymore. Too much land to deal with and not very favorable conditions aloft either. Unless that ridge breaks down and gives it more room to work with it's just going to get sheared off to the west into Mexico and be a big rain maker. May have a brief window of opportunity off the Yucatan before going inland though.

1. Most June conditions for cyclogenesis are not optimal, but they do not prohibit slight development to a weak or moderate system (TS). In some cases, hurricanes like Alma 1966 and Allison 1995 have developed, but that is highly unlikely in this situation.
2. Several tropical depressions have actually developed over land in Central America during May and June in the historical records.
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#719 Postby Vortex » Mon May 26, 2008 5:17 pm

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#720 Postby NDG » Mon May 26, 2008 5:18 pm

It will be very hard for a system to move much westward this time of the year, ridges are usually not that strong yet, and the whole atmosphere still moves from W to east in the mid latitudes, if indeed we have development it will find a NE path sooner or later.
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