2019 Indicators: SST'S / Sal / MSLP / Steering / Shear / Instability (See updated graphics at first post)

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#721 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:49 pm

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#722 Postby SFLcane » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:04 pm

Lol maybe we are done for the year... :cheesy: :roll:

 https://twitter.com/mpalmertwc/status/1159625508855828480


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#723 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:08 pm

From the last several tweets linked along with what the CFS has consistently shown after mid-September, this season just screams late-blooming version of 1985, which also had a nearly dead MDR
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#724 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:10 pm

From one post showing a tweet saying ABOVE NORMAL U.S. landfall risk to the next post showing a tweet saying season cancel the Atlantic is BONE DRY. You can see why everyone is going crazier than usual with what to expect or not within the next 4-8 weeks or so.
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#725 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:22 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:From one post showing a tweet saying ABOVE NORMAL U.S. landfall risk to the next post showing a tweet saying season cancel the Atlantic is BONE DRY. You can see why everyone is going crazier than usual with what to expect or not within the next 4-8 weeks or so.

The ECMWF seems to have a dry bias in the Atlantic year in and year out. And Eric Blake said that TCs are too small to strongly show up in rainfall anomaly forecasts.
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#726 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:40 pm

That’s a really warm Atlantic and note lack of El Niño. It is much warmer than 2018 at this time and similar to 2017 with anomalies centers a bit further north:

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#727 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:41 pm

Another thing to watch for when the rising air moves into the Atlantic is for dry waves with vorticity as they move into the rising air as some of those went on to be nasty hurricanes like Fran, Elena, Andrew, and Katrina
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#728 Postby NotSparta » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:00 pm

SFLcane wrote:Lol maybe we are done for the year... :cheesy: :roll:

https://twitter.com/mpalmertwc/status/1159625508855828480


Yeah, these models tend to overdo the dryness

 https://twitter.com/webberweather/status/1151215167146885120


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#729 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:41 am

gatorcane wrote:That’s a really warm Atlantic and note lack of El Niño. It is much warmer than 2018 at this time and similar to 2017 with anomalies centers a bit further north:

https://i.postimg.cc/fTxSFBJZ/anomw-8-8-2019.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/prvRnYxY/anomw-8-10-2017.gif


Dry air/subsidence is the issue.
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#730 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:44 am

I dont know if there are any other NAO graphs or charts out there, but this one has kept showing NAO going positive end of August but then it reverts back to staying negative....which it has been for many months now. Makes you wonder if it will ever go into a sustained positive at all this season

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#731 Postby psyclone » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:36 am

As is usual, the weather fans are getting antsy...and some of that is justified given the calendar. But...we've been here before. Patience is needed...along with an ability to delineate possibility from probability. These traits are often lacking in the weather world. In addition, becoming conversant in landfall climo for your geographic region is essential. In my neck of the woods peak landfall season is the latter half of Sept through October.. a dead August is of minimal help to mitigate risk here. We've got a lot of gas in the tank. Let me refer you to my favorite hurricane season song...depeche mode's "enjoy the silence"...
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#732 Postby Patrick99 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:00 am

Is a negative NAO really an inhibiting factor? I thought the NAO just helped influence potential tracks of anything that does form.
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#734 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:54 am

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#735 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:48 am

The same “weak” MJO that helped spawn 2 canes in the west pac?

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#736 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:45 pm

To all those season ending tweets please refer to this tweet below.

Bingo bingo bingo!! :roll:

 https://twitter.com/BMcNoldy/status/1159867978600419328


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#737 Postby Hammy » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:13 pm

:uarrow: Not to say that's what'll occur but wouldn't 90% yet to come still only be 33 for the season?
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#738 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:52 pm

Hammy wrote::uarrow: Not to say that's what'll occur but wouldn't 90% yet to come still only be 33 for the season?

no. what this tweet is saying is that upcoming storms in peak season are what truly define the season, not what happens before it. therefore, although it’s dead now. what happens during the peak is what truly determines if a season is above or below average.
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