2019 Indicators: SST'S / Sal / MSLP / Steering / Shear / Instability (See updated graphics at first post)

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Re: 2019 Indicators: SST'S / Sal / MSLP / Steering / Shear / Instability (See updated graphics at first post)

#741 Postby CyclonicFury » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:05 pm

 https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/1160020575798124544



Shear in the Caribbean was actually below average in July according to this, unlike what Klotzbach said.
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#742 Postby USTropics » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:26 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/1160020575798124544
Shear in the Caribbean was actually below average in July according to this, unlike what Klotzbach said.


Agreed, it has been below average since July:

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The main inhibiting factor has been instability, which is performing well under normal throughout the Atlantic:
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#743 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:44 am

Let's see what happens in reallity.

 https://twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1160159202607865857


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#744 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:04 am

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#745 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:40 am

Forecaster Avila says “ding ding ding” on the 20th.
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#746 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:53 am

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#748 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:40 pm

So how many times is he going to play the EPS with its dry air bias?
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#749 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:47 pm

Here’s my thinking, the CCKW might get the ball rolling and once it leaves the MJO comes and things really pick up the last 5 days of the month all the way into mid October so it could be a rough ride after August 25th
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#750 Postby AtlanticWind » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:30 pm

With the lower shear in the tropical Atlantic , I am expecting things to really heat up (unfortunately) in about 9 to 15 days.
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#751 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:31 pm

Here is the wave that one member (USTropics) pinpoints as to watch down the road.We shall see.

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#752 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:38 pm

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#753 Postby USTropics » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:56 pm

Don't expect any development until August 22/23 at the earliest, as the wave axis exits the WCARIB into the GOM. A very stable MDR will likely strip this wave of convection, much like we saw with previous waves/invests. A weak CCKW passage and the MJO pulse could then jump start the western axis of the wave in the BOC/WGOM. A long time to watch and see how the models react, the GFS has consistently shown an EPAC system impacting Baja California/Mexico that could disrupt vorticity as well (but has trended weaker the past 4 runs). The shear axis in the GOM will also be key.
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#754 Postby NotSparta » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:59 pm



This is the big difference between 2019 and canceled seasons mentioned (especially 2013). Yes, there is the dry air for now, but the high shear a la 2013 is completely missing, and isn't significantly above average even w/ unfavorable subseasonal forcing
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#755 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:10 pm

NotSparta wrote:


This is the big difference between 2019 and canceled seasons mentioned (especially 2013). Yes, there is the dry air for now, but the high shear a la 2013 is completely missing, and isn't significantly above average even w/ unfavorable subseasonal forcing


Yeah but the thermo has to improve before anything forms.
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#756 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:26 pm

So quiet in the Atlantic now, looking at the water vapor loop you might think August would not see a hurricane. NHC raised the storm count probability so I guess it will be a busy late season. October is one of the worst months for Florida, even though its usually season over in Texas by then.
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#757 Postby NotSparta » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:26 pm

SFLcane wrote:
NotSparta wrote:


This is the big difference between 2019 and canceled seasons mentioned (especially 2013). Yes, there is the dry air for now, but the high shear a la 2013 is completely missing, and isn't significantly above average even w/ unfavorable subseasonal forcing


Yeah but the thermo has to improve before anything forms.


It will, going into peak w/ less unfavorable subseasonal forcing argues for at least some improvement in thermo. In 2013, if wasn't the dry air, it got sheared apart. As long as thermo improves, an inactive season is quite unlikely
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#758 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:22 pm

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#759 Postby SFLcane » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:52 pm

More like it but didn’t he say a few days ago the Atlantic was shut down per ecmwf :roll: :roll:

 https://twitter.com/mpalmertwc/status/1160351478202216449


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#760 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:16 pm

Third week of August, no fourth week. Before you know it will be September and we will have yet to see an uptick in activity that several are hoping for.
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