Pouch PGI50L in NW Carribean - Code Orange - (Is Invest 96L)

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#861 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:24 am

Vortex wrote:It looks more likely that Nicole moves over the Keys than over SW and/or South Florida wednesday night/thursday morning...Im sure confidence is slowing increasing with the local NWS offices and stronger wording will likely come out with the afternoon package as this is within the next 72-96 timeframe...




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#862 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:24 am

Kyuuubi wrote:
Vortex wrote:1415Z hi-res vis indicates strong inflow developing into the base of the vorticity...

Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but are the hi-res images on NOAA or somewehere else? The main ones I've looked at for the Caribbean are on here: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/satellite.shtml
Is there a better place I can look?



I am not Vortex, but here is a good site of sat images.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... opical.asp
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Re: Hurricane possible NW carribean next week... Code Yellow

#863 Postby otowntiger » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:24 am

ROCK wrote:http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=sht&zoom=&time=


shear zone working down towards the coast and GOM...
That's a very informative graphic. thanks for posting it. This right here could be the reason that the intensity forcasts have been pretty anemic.
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#864 Postby Sanibel » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:25 am

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#865 Postby Recurve » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:25 am

There are generally larger images available from the Navy site. Pro mets have access to larger images that are not generally available on the Web.

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/TC.html
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#866 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:25 am

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wxman57 wrote:Surface pressures are already quite low in the western Caribbean (1007-1009mb). Lowest pressure is north of Honduras/east of Belize. Banding is starting to show up on satellite imagery, and it's not Matthew's circulation. I'd say there's plenty there to initiate an invest. Development is looking likely, probably in 48-72 hrs. Northward track toward Florida and possibly into or along the East U.S. Coast seems like a good bet.

And I don't think this will be the last of the storms forming there. Low pressures will continue across the region. This may be the 2nd of 3 or 4 storms that form there over the next 2 weeks. Time for Florida's hurricane season.
Thanks for posting your insight on this thread wxman57 and this board in general as always. One question: do you have a feel for what strength of this system will be when (or if) it moves toward Florida?


I don't know about intensity. Certainly could become a hurricane. We don't know how much land interaction there will be (Cuba/FL). I'd say better than not chance of a hurricane, though. Major hurricane? Maybe. Depends on how long it sits over the NW Caribbean before moving out.

And as for what I would define as "south Florida", basically the southern half of the FL peninsula. Maybe from Tampa south. North Florida would be the panhandle and extreme northern peninsula (at least to me).

Oh, and by the way, the PREDICT team didn't say this could be the "Big One". They said that the European model was predicting it to be the big one at the time. Just a statement of what the Euro was predicting, nothing more.
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#867 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:29 am

Right now there isn't much convection over Central America/Honduras...but I imagine by later on this afternoon, the convection will blow-up over that country and feed into the system.....

Also on VIS, there is distinct cyclonic turning just north of Honduras.........
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#868 Postby lonelymike » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:30 am

Thanks wxman57. How do you feel about the hurricane season for the NGOM the rest of the year?
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#869 Postby otowntiger » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:34 am

wxman57 wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Surface pressures are already quite low in the western Caribbean (1007-1009mb). Lowest pressure is north of Honduras/east of Belize. Banding is starting to show up on satellite imagery, and it's not Matthew's circulation. I'd say there's plenty there to initiate an invest. Development is looking likely, probably in 48-72 hrs. Northward track toward Florida and possibly into or along the East U.S. Coast seems like a good bet.

And I don't think this will be the last of the storms forming there. Low pressures will continue across the region. This may be the 2nd of 3 or 4 storms that form there over the next 2 weeks. Time for Florida's hurricane season.
Thanks for posting your insight on this thread wxman57 and this board in general as always. One question: do you have a feel for what strength of this system will be when (or if) it moves toward Florida?


I don't know about intensity. Certainly could become a hurricane. We don't know how much land interaction there will be (Cuba/FL). I'd say better than not chance of a hurricane, though. Major hurricane? Maybe. Depends on how long it sits over the NW Caribbean before moving out.

And as for what I would define as "south Florida", basically the southern half of the FL peninsula. Maybe from Tampa south. North Florida would be the panhandle and extreme northern peninsula (at least to me).

Oh, and by the way, the PREDICT team didn't say this could be the "Big One". They said that the European model was predicting it to be the big one at the time. Just a statement of what the Euro was predicting, nothing more.
Thank you sir for the detailed reply! I guess we here in Florida should be expecting a little more than the 40% chance of rain that is being predicted by our local (Orlando) mets for later this week? :wink:
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#870 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:36 am

12Z GFS rolling
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#871 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:36 am

plenty of W/SW winds along the Honduran coast this morning..Very low pressures as well...The below Observation is from Roatan...located within the Bay islands North of Honduras and WSW to the developing center...

87 °F
Haze
Humidity: 65%
Dew Point: 77 °F
Wind: 2 mph from the WSW
Wind Gust: -
Pressure: 29.73
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#872 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:39 am

Should remain quasi stationary for at least the next 24 hours..
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#873 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:49 am

gatorcane wrote:Who thinks the NHC bumps it up to code orange by 2pm EST?

My vote is yes they will


Model support for at least a strong low and wide spread convection and low pressures, I vote 30% at 2pm. :D
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#874 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:52 am

Blown Away wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Who thinks the NHC bumps it up to code orange by 2pm EST?

My vote is yes they will


Model support for at least a strong low and wide spread convection and low pressures, I vote 30% at 2pm. :D



I am going to chim in on this. :) Only a guess, nothing official of course, 20% at 2 PM and 96L around 2:30 PM.
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#875 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:53 am

FYI

The western end of Cuba(Havana west) is very flat so if it crosses the impacts due to land interaction would be minimal...Central cuba landfall then more substantial land interaction...
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#876 Postby tina25 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:55 am

I'm guessing 20% at 2pm and 50% at 8. Invest will be declared sometime late afternoon.

Nothing more than a shot in the dark.
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#877 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:55 am

cycloneye wrote:
Blown Away wrote:
gatorcane wrote:Who thinks the NHC bumps it up to code orange by 2pm EST?

My vote is yes they will


Model support for at least a strong low and wide spread convection and low pressures, I vote 30% at 2pm. :D



I am going to chim in on this. :) Only a guess, nothing official of course, 20% at 2 PM and 96L around 2:30 PM.


My thinking as well Luis.
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#878 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:59 am

My fear is it heads NNE/NE across west/central cuba then up across SFL..This would angle the shear differently and allow for a more potent system..similar to what the NAM is indicating
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#879 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:59 am

I don't think this will be the time for the NHC to be conservative as the models have been predicting this for a few days. I say invest by this afternoon and a TD by the morning....possibly Nicole by tomorrow evening. Watches and Warnings posted by Tuesday. We shall see....just an opinion.
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#880 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:00 am

12Z GFS shows a TS formed by 48 hours.
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