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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#901 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:28 pm

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I intended to post this a few days back. Tuesday's graphic is gonna be really interesting.
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#902 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:39 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If we get to O or P before the end of August, the Greek Alphabet better be ready. Even in the 2005 Atlantic season, we were only at L at that point.

Also it seems this year there is more interest than ever in the EPAC...I guess because a slow Atlantic season was expected by almost everyone, and the EPAC and CPAC have gone bonkers so far...

There also is an additional three names on the Eastern Pacific list compared to the Atlantic each year. Also in the 2005 Atlantic season at this point we were only thorough I (Irene).
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#903 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:53 pm

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CrazyC83 wrote:If we get to O or P before the end of August, the Greek Alphabet better be ready. Even in the 2005 Atlantic season, we were only at L at that point.

Also it seems this year there is more interest than ever in the EPAC...I guess because a slow Atlantic season was expected by almost everyone, and the EPAC and CPAC have gone bonkers so far...

There also is an additional three names on the Eastern Pacific list compared to the Atlantic each year. Also in the 2005 Atlantic season at this point we were only thorough I (Irene).


And the EPAC peaks sooner than the ATL. I doubt the activity observed in November and late October in 2005 will repeat itself this year.


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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#904 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:10 am

Here comes major hurricane Norbert and TS Odile in the long range GFS

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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#905 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:46 am

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GFS also shows Major Hurricane Marie from the 0/30 thing. Develops it by day 4.

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UKMET and FIM show a really really inactive basin (sarcasm) this coming week

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#906 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:47 am

An area of low pressure is expected to form in a few days to the
south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec. Slow development of this system
is possible later this week while the low moves roughly parallel to
the coast of southwestern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.
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#907 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:40 am

An area of low pressure is expected to form in a few days to the
south of the Gulf of Tehuantepec. Slow development of this system
is possible later this week while the low moves roughly parallel to
the coast of southwestern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent.
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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#908 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 10:01 am

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6z GFS Marie. Keeps it somewhat offshore.

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0z ECMWF hinting at a possibly recurvature.

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oz CMC has it passing SW.

This reminds me of Jonh 06 and Jimena, which save the GFDL and HWRF, were all initially forecast to pass W or SW of the peninsula. Both were high-end Cat 2's at landfall.
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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#909 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:11 pm

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HOLY CRAP.

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Brings it pretty close to CA as a mid-grade TS.

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CMC shows a major as well.

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6z HWRF makes this a hurricane by day 5. Much more easterly track. Jimena 09 and John 06 were forecast to move near Baja by models early on, when the guidence3 had it move west. Guess what? It verified.
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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#910 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 18, 2014 12:31 pm

A tropical wave over Panama and Costa Rica is expected to move
westward and develop into a low pressure area south of the Gulf of
Tehuantepec by Thursday. Additional development of this system is
likely later this week while the low moves west-northwestward well
offshore of the coast of southwestern Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...high...60 percent.


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#911 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:22 pm

My sister lives in Calexico. Right at the border between California and Mexico. This could be bad for her. But they are in a drought so this maybe good. Who knows.
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#912 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:27 pm

it certainly seems that we are in El Nino conditions with all the storms going off in the EPAC and the Atlantic as dead as a doornail. The new GFS system which NHC has at 0/60 right now is an absolute monster! Yowza! :eek:
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#913 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:24 pm

Kingarabian wrote:My sister lives in Calexico. Right at the border between California and Mexico. This could be bad for her. But they are in a drought so this maybe good. Who knows.


I think this possible storm will have both positive and negative effect on the state. In any case, it is still 10 days out.

I live outside of Las Vegas, so I'm far away from the core of this possible system.

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#914 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 3:26 pm

gatorcane wrote:it certainly seems that we are in El Nino conditions with all the storms going off in the EPAC and the Atlantic as dead as a doornail.


We probably are, giving the high activity near 120-130W, but I wll point out that the EPAC can be active in neutral seasons as well. Look at 1990, 1984, and 1985 for proof.
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#915 Postby somethingfunny » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:01 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:My sister lives in Calexico. Right at the border between California and Mexico. This could be bad for her. But they are in a drought so this maybe good. Who knows.


I think this possible storm will have both positive and negative effect on the state. In any case, it is still 10 days out.

I live outside of Las Vegas, so I'm far away from the core of this possible system.

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The core of a tropical cyclone will almost certainly never be an issue in the Southwest United States in terms of an intense eyewall. It's flooding rains that you need to watch out for and there's little correlation between the location of a decaying cyclone's center and the location of the heaviest rainfall.

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#916 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:07 pm

somethingfunny wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:My sister lives in Calexico. Right at the border between California and Mexico. This could be bad for her. But they are in a drought so this maybe good. Who knows.


I think this possible storm will have both positive and negative effect on the state. In any case, it is still 10 days out.

I live outside of Las Vegas, so I'm far away from the core of this possible system.

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The core of a tropical cyclone will almost certainly never be an issue in the Southwest United States in terms of an intense eyewall. It's flooding rains that you need to watch out for and there's little correlation between the location of a decaying cyclone's center and the location of the heaviest rainfall.


That is especially true with the Southwest US.

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This is Arizona's deadliest TC.

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This is Arizona's costliest TC.

The Southwest US has been rather lucky as a whole as of late. They haven't had a single storm do much there since Nora in 1997, which was borderline active era.
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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#917 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:40 pm

I am going to go ahead and take a shot at the next system 0%/60% as of this post and say it may get close to both Amanda (135kts) and Cristina (130kts) in intensity when it reaches the peak.

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#918 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:45 pm

Depending on the model trends I think we could see something like a Rick of 2009 before it weakens as it gets close to the the coast.

I say Rick because that thing was huge. And so is this storm in the GFS forecast.

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#919 Postby Steve820 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:55 pm

It really looks like we are in an El Nino with the dead Atlantic and the very active EPac. The 0/60 AOI might even have a slight shot at C5 status. The EPac is going insane and just won't stop :eek:
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Re: 2014 EPAC Season

#920 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:02 pm

18z GFS brings Marie down to 940mb with an absolute gigantic appearance

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