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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#901 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:22 am

Since June 22nd,the daily SOI index has risen to positive and until today,only one day it was negative.Below are the last four days.

Daily SOI Index

10-Jul-2009 +1.17
11-Jul-2009 + 10.22
12-Jul-2009 + 18.04
13-Jul-2009 + 19.33
14-Jul-2009 + 14.71
15-Jul-2009 + 3.02
16-Jul-2009 - 5.17


http://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/Seaso ... SOIValues/

30 day SOI Index


Since July 3rd,the 30 day SOI has risen to positive territory and has stayed there.

2009060420090703 +.4
2009060520090704 +.4
2009060620090705 +1.2
2009060720090706 +.5
2009060820090707 +.6
2009060920090708 +.6
2009061020090709 +2.9
2009061120090710 +4.5
2009061220090711 +5.9
2009061320090712 +8.2
2009061420090713 +8.9
2009061520090714 +8.9






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http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/soi.dt3

For those who dont know what the SOI Index is and how it affects what ENSO does,at link below is a complete explanation.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/glossary/soi.shtml
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#902 Postby El Nino » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:40 pm

Hi all,

Ok ... I just mentionned the lack of humidity and "wintry" weather here in Lima, and now since thursday night, it's raining at times, and we have more july weather with lower temperatures. Just to make me crazy ...
I don't know if it will last, but one thing is sure : it's not good for the flu !
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#903 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:11 am

I added todays SOI daily reading at the first post of this page and it continues to rise,today up to +18.04.As I said in above post,since June 22nd,the SOI index in a daily basis has gone up in a steady way until todays +18.04.And the 30 day SOI data is following that.
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#904 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:30 am

No big changes in this graphic of the anomalies in the Pacific from the past 2 weeks.If I can say of a change and its a minor thing,is that the 1.0C area has shrinked a tad east of 120W,compared to last weeks readings.

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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#905 Postby El Nino » Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:53 pm

Just to notice that although we have a lot of humidity and some drizzle here in Lima now, temperature is still around 20º. Normally, we should have 2-3º colder temperatures. Quite surprising !
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#906 Postby jinftl » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:57 pm

In line with that, the overall temp anonmaly for the region of the pacific looked at (nino region 3.4) is certainly not warming rapidly the last few weeks...actually the average anomaly cooled from +1.0C two weeks ago to +0.9C last week. Essentially 'noise'...but the thing to keep an eye on is there is a resumption of the warming or does it continue to plateau....this will be important in determing how strong the el nino is or isn't. Almost all forecasts are still calling for a weak to moderate el nino....which means the rate of temp increases we have seen this past spring would in fact be expected to slow given the forecasted anomalies.

The SOI values we have been seeing...and the trend for those values to be increasing....is not at all what one would expect with the onset of an el nino. This may be a temporary trend, but it could be one indicator of what the intensity of the el nino could be (or not be).

Looking at historical SOI values from prior el nino years shows just how out of whack the current readings are (values shown are the month's average SOI):

1987: May = -21.6, June = -20.1
1994: May = -13.0, June = -10.4
1997: May = -22.4, June = -24.1
2002: May = -14.5, June = -6.3
2004: May = +13.1, June = -14.4 (rapid decrease in SOI as el nino conditions set in during June)
2006: May = -9.8, June = -6.5
2009: May = -5.1, June = -2.3 (trend shows increase, early July numbers are now over 0)


cycloneye wrote:No big changes in this graphic of the anomalies in the Pacific from the past 2 weeks.If I can say of a change and its a minor thing,is that the 1.0C area has shrinked a tad east of 120W,compared to last weeks readings.
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#907 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:34 pm

I added the (July 11) 30 day SOI numbers to the post at the top of this page.It continues to go up at +5.9.
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI Index continues to rise

#908 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:15 am

Climate Prediction Center Weekly Update

Last weeks numbers:

Niño 4= +0.7ºC
Niño 3.4= +0.9ºC
Niño 3= +0.9ºC
Niño1+2= +0.6ºC

The latest numbers of the four areas of ENSO:

The latest weekly SST departures are:
Niño 4= +0.6ºC
Niño 3.4= +0.8ºC
Niño 3=+0.9ºC
Niño1+2= +0.9ºC


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This weeks update at link below.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf
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Re: ENSO Updates=Climate Prediction Center 7/13/09 update

#909 Postby jinftl » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:09 am

Continued slight downward trend in nino 3.4 sst anomalies continues as of today's update....the higher the anomaly, the stronger the el nino:

2 weeks ago: +1.0C
last week: +0.9C
this week: +0.8C
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Re: ENSO Updates=Climate Prediction Center 7/13/09 update

#910 Postby boca » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:11 am

jinftl wrote:Continued slight downward trend in nino 3.4 sst anomalies continues as of today's update....the higher the anomaly, the stronger the el nino:

2 weeks ago: +1.0C
last week: +0.9C
this week: +0.8C


This seems to go against the norm of a developing El Nino. I curious what the numbers will be like in Aug /Sept.
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Re: ENSO Updates=Climate Prediction Center 7/13/09 update

#911 Postby jinftl » Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:22 am

It would seem to go against the development of a strong el nino at this time anyways....

boca wrote:
jinftl wrote:Continued slight downward trend in nino 3.4 sst anomalies continues as of today's update....the higher the anomaly, the stronger the el nino:

2 weeks ago: +1.0C
last week: +0.9C
this week: +0.8C


This seems to go against the norm of a developing El Nino. I curious what the numbers will be like in Aug /Sept.
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#912 Postby KWT » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:47 pm

Not too surprising to see the downward motion, the SOI has been positive recently so thats probably a good reason. In fact the long range models even progged a slight decrease of SST's, though its a bit earlier then expected if that is indeed the thing that is occuring.
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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI index continues to rise

#913 Postby jinftl » Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:45 pm

Overall the eastern Pacific has been cooling some in the last few weeks....area of above normal temps has decreased in both size and amount. Even a small amount of below normal water temps off the coast of Peru as of 7/12...in an area that was above normal on 6/28.


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Re: ENSO Updates=SOI index continues to rise

#914 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:12 pm

At the first post of this page you will see the latest reading of the 30 day SOI index.Again it has risen,now up to +8.2.Since July 3rd the 30 day SOI has gone up and not look back.Also since June 22nd,the daily SOI index has mantained positive.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#915 Postby Blown Away » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:34 am

I have a question, looking at past SOI #'s I found that the Jul/Aug SOI variations were mostly below 7 (is there a unit for the SOI). Currently the SOI is +8.2, so based on past data I got to think the SOI won't make it back to the negative before the end of August??
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http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soihtm1.shtml
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Re: ENSO Updates

#916 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:31 am

At the first post of this page you will see the latest reading of the 30 day SOI index.It has stayed at +8.9 in the last two days.Lets see if it starts to go down from here.Since July 3rd the 30 day SOI has gone up and not look back.Since June 22nd,the daily SOI data has been positive until today as it falls into negative at -5.17.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#917 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:47 pm

The latest update of the CFS / NCEP model data of ENSO shows a flat data from today thru late September of around 1.0C readings.Then it spikes to 2.0C in November,and thereafter,it starts to slide by January.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#918 Postby AnnularCane » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:03 pm

cycloneye wrote:The latest update of the CFS / NCEP model data of ENSO shows a flat data from today thru late September of around 1.0C readings.Then it spikes to 2.0C in November,and thereafter,it starts to slide by January.




What does that mean?
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Re: ENSO Updates

#919 Postby boca » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:09 pm

It means that El Nino will be at its strongest peak in Nov than slowly weaken into january according to that forecast.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#920 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:10 pm

AnnularCane wrote:
cycloneye wrote:The latest update of the CFS / NCEP model data of ENSO shows a flat data from today thru late September of around 1.0C readings.Then it spikes to 2.0C in November,and thereafter,it starts to slide by January.




What does that mean?


If this ENSO model is correct,El Nino will be weak in most of the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season.Then afterwards as the season winds down in October and November,it ramps up to a moderate El Nino.By January 2010,El Nino starts to diminush.
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