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#941 Postby artist » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:11 pm

Bgator - I thought it explained it so well! Glad you enjoyed it too. According to him (her?) the models should jump back.
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#942 Postby boca » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:20 pm

Do you think the models are on crack given the time of year or are they on to something. How can the models change so much in just 24 hours.
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#943 Postby markymark8 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:21 pm

The 11 pm advisory has made me wonder if this thing is going to do anything. The pressure is still 1001mbs and alot of dry air than expected has gotten into the Depression and not to mention the NHC says if and when it turns into a Tropical Storm in the latest advisory. You can see on infrared it has alot of dry air in the system . I think there is a possibility of a little more hype to this storm.
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#944 Postby StormFury » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:22 pm

The models are on Oxy Contin!
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#945 Postby Brent » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:22 pm

markymark8 wrote:The 11 pm advisory has made me wonder if this thing is going to do anything. The pressure is still 1001mbs and alot of dry air than expected has gotten into the Depression and not to mention the NHC says if and when it turns into a Tropical Storm in the latest advisory. You can see on infrared it has alot of dry air in the system . I think there is a possibility of a little more hype to this storm.


Uh... it's likely going to be a tropical storm in the next few hours. Look at satellite.

and from the NHC:

EVEN THOUGH THE ADVISORY INTENSITY IS HELD AT
30 KT... THE DEPRESSION APPEARS VERY CLOSE TO TROPICAL STORM STATUS
AND WILL LIKELY REACH IT ON MONDAY MORNING.
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#946 Postby texasweatherwatcher » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:23 pm

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#947 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:23 pm

Brent wrote:
markymark8 wrote:The 11 pm advisory has made me wonder if this thing is going to do anything. The pressure is still 1001mbs and alot of dry air than expected has gotten into the Depression and not to mention the NHC says if and when it turns into a Tropical Storm in the latest advisory. You can see on infrared it has alot of dry air in the system . I think there is a possibility of a little more hype to this storm.


Uh... it's likely going to be a tropical storm in the next few hours. Look at satellite.

and from the NHC:

EVEN THOUGH THE ADVISORY INTENSITY IS HELD AT
30 KT... THE DEPRESSION APPEARS VERY CLOSE TO TROPICAL STORM STATUS
AND WILL LIKELY REACH IT ON MONDAY MORNING.

He obviously got a completely different 11 pm advisory than the rest of us.
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#948 Postby boca » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:23 pm

Its possible the models received bad data.
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#949 Postby yoda » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:24 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
Brent wrote:
markymark8 wrote:The 11 pm advisory has made me wonder if this thing is going to do anything. The pressure is still 1001mbs and alot of dry air than expected has gotten into the Depression and not to mention the NHC says if and when it turns into a Tropical Storm in the latest advisory. You can see on infrared it has alot of dry air in the system . I think there is a possibility of a little more hype to this storm.


Uh... it's likely going to be a tropical storm in the next few hours. Look at satellite.

and from the NHC:

EVEN THOUGH THE ADVISORY INTENSITY IS HELD AT
30 KT... THE DEPRESSION APPEARS VERY CLOSE TO TROPICAL STORM STATUS
AND WILL LIKELY REACH IT ON MONDAY MORNING.

He obviously got a completely different 11 pm advisory than the rest of us.

:?:

The NHC is the hurricane center, and if its not a TS at 11, then it isn't. It will be soon, just not now.
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#950 Postby El Nino » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:25 pm

Lot of moist air on the eastern side and dry air to the NW side is retrogressing. Very deep convection around the center. Really impressive ! I forecast a good intensification tomorrow !

Let the fun begins !
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#951 Postby yoda » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:26 pm

boca wrote:Its possible the models received bad data.


Only if NCEP states as such. If they don't.. then its good data. :wink:
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#952 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:26 pm

yoda wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
Brent wrote:
markymark8 wrote:The 11 pm advisory has made me wonder if this thing is going to do anything. The pressure is still 1001mbs and alot of dry air than expected has gotten into the Depression and not to mention the NHC says if and when it turns into a Tropical Storm in the latest advisory. You can see on infrared it has alot of dry air in the system . I think there is a possibility of a little more hype to this storm.


Uh... it's likely going to be a tropical storm in the next few hours. Look at satellite.

and from the NHC:

EVEN THOUGH THE ADVISORY INTENSITY IS HELD AT
30 KT... THE DEPRESSION APPEARS VERY CLOSE TO TROPICAL STORM STATUS
AND WILL LIKELY REACH IT ON MONDAY MORNING.

He obviously got a completely different 11 pm advisory than the rest of us.

:?:

The NHC is the hurricane center, and if its not a TS at 11, then it isn't. It will be soon, just not now.

His orginal post, however, said that the 11 pm advisory (from NHC I assume) made him wonder if the storm was actually being overhyped and won't turn into a bigger system, which was absolutely not the tone of the discussion I read.
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#953 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:26 pm

Stratosphere747 wrote:I would not rule out this just going into C America and not bothering the CONUS at all...
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That's what everyone was hoping Katrina would have done but didn't so I would say the likelyhood is there that this will be yet another U.S. landing storm. :(
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#954 Postby yoda » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:28 pm

jkt21787 wrote:
yoda wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:
Brent wrote:
markymark8 wrote:The 11 pm advisory has made me wonder if this thing is going to do anything. The pressure is still 1001mbs and alot of dry air than expected has gotten into the Depression and not to mention the NHC says if and when it turns into a Tropical Storm in the latest advisory. You can see on infrared it has alot of dry air in the system . I think there is a possibility of a little more hype to this storm.


Uh... it's likely going to be a tropical storm in the next few hours. Look at satellite.

and from the NHC:

EVEN THOUGH THE ADVISORY INTENSITY IS HELD AT
30 KT... THE DEPRESSION APPEARS VERY CLOSE TO TROPICAL STORM STATUS
AND WILL LIKELY REACH IT ON MONDAY MORNING.

He obviously got a completely different 11 pm advisory than the rest of us.

:?:

The NHC is the hurricane center, and if its not a TS at 11, then it isn't. It will be soon, just not now.

His orginal post, however, said that the 11 pm advisory (from NHC I assume) made him wonder if the storm would do any strengthening, which was absolutely not the tone of the discussion I read.


Ok... got it now! :wink:
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#955 Postby gotoman38 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:28 pm

REMEMBER: This season has been unlikely to follow climatalogical (historical) patterns to this point.... IMO following something else (computer models? expert analysis?) is the best planning.
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#956 Postby markymark8 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:28 pm

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH... 55 KM/HR... WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. THE DEPRESSION IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A TROPICAL STORM ON
MONDAY. IF AND WHEN IT DOES SO... IT WILL TIE THE RECORD OF 21
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#957 Postby jax » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:30 pm

most of the models are now suggesting a more northly track...
possible North central gulf... again... wow
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#958 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:30 pm

markymark8 wrote:MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH... 55 KM/HR... WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. THE DEPRESSION IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A TROPICAL STORM ON
MONDAY. IF AND WHEN IT DOES SO... IT WILL TIE THE RECORD OF 21

THE DEPRESSION IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A TROPICAL STORM ON
MONDAY.


Thats pretty definitive sentence there, IMO. The other sentence I believe was in the same format in previous advisories today.

5 pm in fact...
"IF IT DOES SO...IT WILL TIE THE RECORD OF 21
NAMED STORMS SET IN 1933." Actually only "IF" there, no "WHEN", so it seems more definitive in this latest advisory for sure.
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#959 Postby yoda » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:32 pm

jax wrote:most of the models are now suggesting a more northly track...
possible North central gulf... again... wow

Um.. not the 0z Guidance...
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#960 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:33 pm

here we go, 00z gfs rolling in...tomorrow

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