SSTs in western Atlantic

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SSTs in western Atlantic

#1 Postby hurricanetrack » Mon May 12, 2008 7:54 am

Take a look at the latest Reynolds SST map from the NHC site:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/atl_anom.gif

Can anyone explain why the western portion of the Basin is generally below normal? I have not seen that large an area at or below normal in a long time.

Conversely, the eastern Atlantic is mostly above normal. While all this could change quite a bit between now and early August, it is odd to see this split SST look in the Atlantic right now. What do you all think the cause is?
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#2 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Mon May 12, 2008 8:27 am

That bluish color is actually close to zero.
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#3 Postby KWT » Mon May 12, 2008 11:16 am

Looks pretty close to average acorss alot of the western part of the basin, maybe a touch below average overall in the western part...should be noted that I believe the average portion in the caribbean should be greatly expanded (the 0C isotherm) as much of the central Caribbean and central gulf looks about the same temp on that map as that little area that is above normal in the Carribean.

If that profile keeps up would expect a few decent cape verde systems given the temps of the water...I wouldn't be surprised once the la nina pattern eases off if those waters in the western portion warm back towards average again.
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#4 Postby RL3AO » Mon May 12, 2008 11:19 am

I think the key is a little misleading.
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#5 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon May 12, 2008 8:49 pm

Zero to one degree Celcius below normal isn't that extreme.
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Re: SSTs in western Atlantic

#6 Postby cycloneye » Tue May 13, 2008 10:31 am

Yes Mark,a contrast from what the Western Atlantic shows look at the Eastern Atlantic.

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#7 Postby KWT » Tue May 13, 2008 11:36 am

Yeah Ed your right, in the Caribbean a little below average will still be more then warm enough for a major hurricane esp with lower shear values...however in the eastern part of the basin 0.5-1C can make a fair differnece to the chances of a tropical storm forming or not from the waves further east.
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#8 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue May 13, 2008 11:55 am

cycloneye wrote:Yes Mark,a contrast from what the Western Atlantic shows look at the Eastern Atlantic.

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That'd be a good set up if it lasts, more storms developing close to Africa, fewer developing close to the Caribbean and US, with more recurves and less landfalls.
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#9 Postby RL3AO » Tue May 13, 2008 5:15 pm

And heres the GOM

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#10 Postby Eyewall » Tue May 13, 2008 8:36 pm

The water temperatures may be a little warmer in the western atlantic. But african dust will be a huge factor in how many stormes will develop off the cost of africa. Especially in 2006 when the cape verde season was shut down by the african dust. 8-)
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#11 Postby KWT » Wed May 14, 2008 10:57 am

To be fair in the case of 2006 the cape Verde season did start to get going in September, we had Florence, gordon and Helene all form however the quickly forming el nino type pattern quickly brought this to a swift end not really the SAL, though that did finish off Debby earlier in that season.
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#12 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed May 14, 2008 6:07 pm

KWT wrote:To be fair in the case of 2006 the cape Verde season did start to get going in September, we had Florence, gordon and Helene all form however the quickly forming el nino type pattern quickly brought this to a swift end not really the SAL, though that did finish off Debby earlier in that season.


Cape Verde in 2006 was more active than in 2005, remarkably...the deep tropics had fairly little activity in 2005 as well (but it was insane in the Gulf, north/western Caribbean and subtropical Atlantic).
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#13 Postby KWT » Thu May 15, 2008 11:02 am

Yeah the 2006 season was actually one of the more active for cape verde systems of the recent seasons, and that showed in the ACE being higher in the 06 season compared with the 07 season despite having less tropical storms by quite a way.
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#14 Postby gatorcane » Sat May 17, 2008 9:34 am

Latest Reynold's SST analysis. If these warmer than normal anomalies in the eastern MDR continue, it would not surprise me that waves pushing off Africa will develop more quickly and have a better chance of deepening and recurving before making it across the MDR.

Unlike the last couple of years I do not expect to see the usual nice looking wave pushing off Africa, only for it to go poof as soon as it hits the ocean. I do believe this year is going to be different out there in the eastern MDR.

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On another note, we are seeing the expected rapid rise in SSTs across the GOM -- nothing unusual for this time of year. This loop shows this:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

Here is the still frame of SSTs across the Atlantic basin. SSTs are looking pretty warm, now we await to see when the upper-level winds will relax, which usually takes until August for much of the MDR.

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#15 Postby jasons2k » Wed May 21, 2008 11:26 am

The WGOM, espeically the Bay of Campeche, is above normal:

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 9.2008.gif
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#16 Postby KWT » Wed May 21, 2008 11:29 am

Looks like those below average sea temps are starting to be eroded away in the western Atlantic somewhat, esp north of 20N, I had a feeling this would happen as la nina decays.
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#17 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:13 pm

things are warming up across the Atlantic basin, but this is no surprise. See latest Reynold's SST map above

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#18 Postby KWT » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:19 pm

Yep though its interesting that some SSTA maps show a warmer Atlantic then that reynolds map...maybe its just to do with the scale they use.
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#19 Postby StormspinnerD2 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:33 pm

It's a different colour scale. Zero on the Reynolds map is a shade of yellow; zero on the NHC map is a shade of blue.
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Re: SSTs in western Atlantic

#20 Postby jinftl » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:34 pm

Another view of basin water temps...
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Compared to one year ago...northern GoM and areas around Florida and SE coast warmer now than a year ago
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