June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

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June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#1 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:15 pm

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I think there is a good chance June 2008 will go down in the books without a single tropical system forming. There were a couple of weak invests but none of them came close to becoming a tropical depression or greater.

Shear is screaming across the basin, African dust has made it all the way to Southern Florida and the Bahamas, and the waves have been generally on the weak side and prone to going poof at any given moment.

It wouldn't surprise me if July is equally as quiet...just your typical avg Atlantic Hurricane season so far...still waiting for mid August to arrive. :)
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#2 Postby Frank2 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:45 pm

Let's not forget Arthur...
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#3 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:47 pm

Arthur was a May system IMHO.
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#4 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:48 pm

Wow Gator...This thread is cruisin for a brusin..LOL :lol:
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#5 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:50 pm

June is normally a slow month, as is July.


When did the 1992 "A" storm form again?
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#6 Postby Squarethecircle » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:55 pm

Fact - Arthur existed in the month of June.

So, how rare is TWO storms in the Atlantic in June, anyway? I'd say not too common.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#7 Postby Jason_B » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:29 pm

Real season doesn't really start till August, the small tropical storms and stuff we sometimes see in June and July usually aren't any worse than a bad afternoon thunderstorm. There are few exceptions though, 2005 being one where we had several big storms prior to August but I don't see that happening this year.
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:31 pm

On average, there is a storm in June every other year.
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#9 Postby dwg71 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:32 pm

IMO Arthur was a named system by today's standards, but I really dont think it would have even gotten a second look 10+ years ago. It was never over water. I think it will skew the numbers a little.

If nothing forms in June, great. 1 down 5 months to go.

For me here in SE TX, I look for August and Sept for activity. Though the other months have produced storms, if we make it to Oct 1st, I breath a huge sigh of relief.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#10 Postby GCANE » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:52 pm

Not so fast. Something may be rolling off Africa next week. Check GFS model run. Shear is going to drop ahead of it and it looks like it associated with trop wave with a pretty large amplitude moisture plume.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#11 Postby jrod » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:58 pm

Without any storms to pull heat out of the ocean and few clouds to cover the sun, an inactive June and July when we have the most heating can lead too hot water for the heart of the season. Just my opinion.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#12 Postby hial2 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:06 pm

jrod wrote:Without any storms to pull heat out of the ocean and few clouds to cover the sun, an inactive June and July when we have the most heating can lead too hot water for the heart of the season. Just my opinion.


Too hot to sustain a system or to hot water to create monster storms? Typo? Not being a wise guy, just wanting to make sure..scientists are popping new theories every day.. :roll:
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#13 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:45 pm

Even if you have 90° waters, if the environment is not conducive, no tropical cyclone will form.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#14 Postby Category 5 » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:02 pm

June systems occur approx once every other year on average. Nothing unusual so far.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#15 Postby Squarethecircle » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:25 pm

hial2 wrote:
jrod wrote:Without any storms to pull heat out of the ocean and few clouds to cover the sun, an inactive June and July when we have the most heating can lead too hot water for the heart of the season. Just my opinion.


Too hot to sustain a system or to hot water to create monster storms? Typo? Not being a wise guy, just wanting to make sure..scientists are popping new theories every day.. :roll:


I'm pretty sure that he typo'd the "to" and made it a "too".
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#16 Postby OuterBanker » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:07 pm

Aug 15 to Oct 15 sweat weeks, all other times pretty much outliers. Here, most of activity is just after Labor Day which is good because in season evacs almost impossible.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#17 Postby MGC » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:33 pm

Since we have already had a named system we are ahead of the curve. IMO I doubt we see another system till after July 4th....too much shear over the basin at this time.....MGC
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#18 Postby fci » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:37 pm

Yeah, a "normal" season so far.
No problem with that!
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#19 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:56 pm

Well I fully expect we won't see much for a little while yet, indeed given the fact we've had a decent strength La Nina I suspect will mean that we won't see any major activity till mid-August.

As for what you said Gatorcane about the waves, I think they have actually been pretty impressive for the time of year, of course the conditions around them have stopped them but the one that developed a circulation about 7-10 days ago would have been a storm if this was August.
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Re: June Without a Single Atlantic Tropical System?

#20 Postby Recurve » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:50 pm

I didn't expect an explosive start. My season projection is on the low side of above normal, or 50-50 chance of under 12 TS.

NOT AN OFFICIAL FORECAST...

Shear has been pretty consistent, and so on. I think we could make it through June easy. But so what, as you said, how long did we wait in '92?
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