Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

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Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#1 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:55 am

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#2 Postby Chacor » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:58 am

That does look very nice.
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#3 Postby RL3AO » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:59 am

June fools day? That looks really good.
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#4 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:59 am

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#5 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:00 am

RL3AO wrote:June fools day? That looks really good.


No joke. I am as impressed as you are.
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#6 Postby Chacor » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:09 am

Not quite a gale system, according to Meteo-France.

http://twister.sbs.ohio-state.edu/text/ ... QNT50.LFPW

Part 1 : NO WARNING.

Part 2 : General synopsis, Monday 1 at 00 UTC

Low 1001 39N28W moving north, expected 999 44N24W by 02/12UTC.

Part 3 : Area forecasts to Tuesday 2 at 12 UTC

ALTAIR :
In west, Northerly 6 or 7 backing North or Northwest 5 or 6 later.
In east, East or Southeast 3 to 5 becoming cyclonic 5 to 7 soon.
Rough or very rough in west, and moderate or rough in east.
Thundery rain or showers. Severe gusts.

ACORES :
In extreme east, South or Southwest 6 or 7 gradually veering West
or Southwest 4 to 6. Elsewhere, Northwesterly 4 to 6. Moderate or
rough, locally very rough in west. Thundery rain or showers.
Gusts.

Force 8 is a gale.
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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#7 Postby TheEuropean » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:14 am

Looks very impressive to me. SST are only 17 to 18 Celsius, some degrees below temperatures when Epsilon, Zeta, Vince etc. made their way near Azores ans Canaries.
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#8 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:35 am

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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#9 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:37 am

The 12 UTC surface analysis shows the low at 1002 mbs.

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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#10 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:54 am

Just a cold core low over cold water, and probably won't be more than that. Currently, max winds of 35-40 kts are located between 400-500nm NW of the center with 30-35 kt winds about 300 miles NE-SE of the center. Winds within 100 miles of the center are closer to 20-30 kts.
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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#11 Postby Category 5 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:05 pm

Are there any upper level temperature anomalies? If so it would have a case.
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#12 Postby Cainer » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:53 pm

SSD has a floater on it now:

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Convection isn't all that deep, but not bad for being over such cold waters.
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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#13 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:22 pm

It got SSD T numbers.

01/1745 UTC 39.9N 24.7W T1.5/1.5 INVEST -- Atlantic
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#14 Postby Cyclone1 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:27 pm

Wow, this is pretty cool. Very impressive, nice catch Hurakan!

92L in the near future?
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#15 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:28 pm

ok thats is interesting.,.. i guess by definition..

would be sub tropical as long as the temp gradient is such that it does not get colder the closer you get...

well i guess in that case it could be a warm core ( not saying it is) if the temp gradient increases the closer you get to the center even if it is in the 50's and 60's

lol :double:
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#16 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:32 pm

check out the evolution of this thing....

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/eumet/neatl/loop-wv.html
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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#17 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:40 pm

well...

GFS makes it sub trop....

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and the UKMET

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#18 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:29 pm

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#19 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Jun 01, 2009 4:38 pm

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Re: Possible Subtropical Cyclone near the Azores

#20 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:06 pm

Sink or swim time. It looks like it has completely occluded, the GFS shows the parent 500 mb low slowly weakening through the next 3 days, and weakens the surface low along with it.


Being occluded, it has lost a direct connection to higher moisture/temperature (I'd use a fancy term like Θe or equivalent temperature, but as an rank amateur, that would just be presumptuous) so it is hard to see how it can maintain thunderstorms over water temps in the 60s for very long.
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