Question about Sub-Tropical Storms

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Question about Sub-Tropical Storms

#1 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:03 pm

This will sound like a stupid question, but if a STS contains hurricane force winds, is it still called a STS? Or would it be called a Sub-Tropical Hurricane or something else?
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Re: Question about Sub-Tropical Storms

#2 Postby wxman57 » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:00 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:This will sound like a stupid question, but if a STS contains hurricane force winds, is it still called a STS? Or would it be called a Sub-Tropical Hurricane or something else?


Not a stupid question. There's no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. It would be a subtropical storm regardless of the winds.
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Re: Question about Sub-Tropical Storms

#3 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:19 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Not a stupid question. There's no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. It would be a subtropical storm regardless of the winds.


I wonder if that has ever happened where a STS had hurricane force winds? A STS reminds me of an extratropical low.
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Re: Question about Sub-Tropical Storms

#4 Postby Ad Novoxium » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:33 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Not a stupid question. There's no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. It would be a subtropical storm regardless of the winds.


I wonder if that has ever happened where a STS had hurricane force winds? A STS reminds me of an extratropical low.

Twice, the first in 1968:
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and then in 1979:
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Of the two, 1968's was more powerful (80 mph vs 75 mph).
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Re: Question about Sub-Tropical Storms

#5 Postby brunota2003 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:58 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:This will sound like a stupid question, but if a STS contains hurricane force winds, is it still called a STS? Or would it be called a Sub-Tropical Hurricane or something else?

To give you the answer from the NHC:
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/A6.html

...Additionally, the maximum sustained winds for sub-tropical cyclones have not been observed to be stronger than about 33 m/s (64 kts, 74 mph)).

Subtropical cyclones in the Atlantic basin are classified by the maximum sustained surface winds:

* less than 18 m/s (34 kts, 39 mph) - "subtropical depression",
* greater than or equal to 18 m/s (34 kts, 39 mph) - "subtropical storm"
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