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Complex in Northeast GOM

#1 Postby drezee » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:56 am

Upper level winds are in good shape and slight rotation on radar...likely mid-level

Strong squall line coming into S FL 47mph

http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/buoy/FWYF1.html
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#2 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:18 am

This tropical wave blew up out of no where during the night, thanks to UL divergence. It has brought back the Saharan dust to central FL this morning.
It has a vorticity but mostly in the mid levels, it also has a little bit of surface convergence.

What seems to be interesting is how a majority of the tropical waves during the past month have reached FL and into the GOM, unlike the last couple of years.
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Re: Complex near S FL

#3 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:50 am

10%

SPECIAL TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1040 AM EDT SUN JUL 22 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A VIGOROUS TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED OVER THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS AND
THE FLORIDA STRAITS IS PRODUCING NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND A FEW STRONG
THUNDERSTORMS. A WIND GUST TO 53 MPH WAS RECENTLY REPORTED AT FOWEY
ROCKS FLORIDA...AND DOPPLER WEATHER DATA INDICATE STRONGER
THUNDERSTORMS ARE LOCATED OFFSHORE THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA COAST.
SURFACE PRESSURES ARE HIGH AND UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE ONLY
MARGINALLY CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT...SO ANY ADDITIONAL
ORGANIZATION OF THIS SYSTEM SHOULD BE SLOW TO OCCUR. REGARDLESS OF
DEVELOPMENT...THIS DISTURBANCE WILL BRING PERIODS OF STRONG GUSTY
WINDS AND LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL TO PORTIONS OF THE NORTHWESTERN
BAHAMAS...CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN FLORIDA...AND THE FLORIDA KEYS OVER
THE NEXT DAY OR SO. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND 15 MPH.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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#4 Postby Dean4Storms » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:10 am

Don't see it being a threat for development for now, but might need to watch it for that in the eastern Gulf in a couple days.
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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#5 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:18 am

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#6 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:38 am

48 mph wind gust just reported at Ft Lauderdale Int'l airport.

Conditions at: KFXE observed 22 July 2012 16:24 UTC
Temperature: 25.0°C (77°F)
Dewpoint: 22.0°C (72°F) [RH = 83%]
Pressure (altimeter): 30.14 inches Hg (1020.7 mb)
Winds: from the S (170 degrees) at 24 MPH (21 knots; 10.9 m/s)
gusting to 48 MPH (42 knots; 21.8 m/s)
Visibility: 2.50 miles (4.02 km)
Ceiling: 1700 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 1700 feet AGL
broken clouds at 2600 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 3800 feet AGL
Present Weather: +TSRA (heavy rain associated with thunderstorm(s))
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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#7 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:59 am

this came out no were from weak wave on sat it coming good here by airport
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#8 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:18 pm

That looks like an eye to me, but I doubt that is the center of circulation.

What is the next Invest number? It has been a while.
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#9 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:20 pm

Yeah, this system blew up very quickly this morning. I think once this emerges into the SE GOM, it may have better chance to possibly develop. We just have to monitor it.
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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#10 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:33 pm

Heavy tropical downpours seem to be on tap for south-central Florida as this complex moves toward the west-northwest

Daytime heating was occuring up until about 12:30 PM, it got into the upper 80s here.
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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#11 Postby AdamFirst » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:43 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN JUL 22 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER CONTAINING NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND A FEW
STRONG THUNDERSTORMS IS LOCATED OVER THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS...
SOUTH FLORIDA...THE FLORIDA KEYS...AND ADJACENT ATLANTIC WATERS...
INCLUDING THE FLORIDA STRAITS. A WIND GUST TO 62 MPH WAS REPORTED
AT FOWEY ROCKS FLORIDA EARLIER TODAY...AND WIND GUSTS TO 40 MPH
HAVE BEEN REPORTED AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS ALONG THE SOUTHEAST FLORIDA
COAST AND IN THE FLORIDA KEYS
. ALTHOUGH THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS
CONTINUED TO INCREASE TODAY...SURFACE PRESSURES ARE UNUSUALLY HIGH
AND UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE ONLY MARGINALLY CONDUCIVE FOR ANY
ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATION OF THIS SYSTEM TO OCCUR. REGARDLESS OF
DEVELOPMENT...THIS VIGOROUS DISTURBANCE WILL PRODUCE STRONG GUSTY
WINDS IN BRIEF SQUALLS ALONG WITH LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS
PORTIONS OF THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS...CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN
FLORIDA...AND THE FLORIDA KEYS OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO...AND
GRADUALLY SPREAD INTO THE NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO AND NORTH
FLORIDA BY TUESDAY. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES
NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND 15 MPH. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS
SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN FORECASTS AND STATEMENTS ISSUED BY YOUR
LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
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#12 Postby fci » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:04 pm

I say Invest by Monday



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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#13 Postby Sanibel » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:16 pm

Possible fast-former, but moving too fast.
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#14 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:17 pm

According to the NHC, the main tropical wave axis is moving northwestward. That header woud keep most of the activity inland over the peninsula, which will of course severely put a lid on its chances of development. Also, surface pressures remain rather high currently across the southern peninsula and the Keys. If this was more west-northwest movement, the system would get into the GOM with improved conditions if shear relaxes.

Well. at the very least, we have at least something to monitor after a long lull in activity.

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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#15 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:41 pm

A weak low due South of Miami.

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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#16 Postby rockyman » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:08 pm

Checking the visible loop, it looks like that weak swirl south of Miami is going to scrape the southern tip of the Florida Peninsula and move NW into the SE Gomex
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#17 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:09 pm

:uarrow: I think that circulation analyzed in the map above is in the mid levels, not the surface.

Amazing how fast the convection has moved across FL this afternoon, I was not expecting this much rain coverage across Orlando this afternoon.

The problem that this tropical wave has is not the shear so much but how fast is moving with a strong surface ridge in control from the Atlantic into the GOM, most of the energy with this tropical wave is in the mid levels.
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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#18 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:54 pm

No new low is added at 18z Surface Analysis.

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#19 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:08 pm

Looks like our disturbed area has split in two on satelitte imagery. One big area of covection rotating through central and W central FL peninsula, and another blob located in the Bahamas. The Bahamas blob looks more intriguing to me. Just an observation. I am still not anticipating quick development from this system at this time.

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Re: Complex near S FL- 10%

#20 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:38 pm

Stays at 10%.

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SUN JUL 22 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A WEAK LOW PRESSURE TROUGH OVER THE FLORIDA PENINSULA IS PRODUCING
DISORGANIZED CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS...AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER PORTIONS
OF THE NORTHWEST BAHAMAS...CENTRAL AND SOUTH FLORIDA...AND THE
NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO. ALTHOUGH CONDITIONS ARE NOT FAVORABLE
FOR SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT...THIS DISTURBANCE COULD PRODUCE
LOCALLY HEAVY RAINS OVER PORTIONS OF FLORIDA DURING THE DAY OR SO
AS IT MOVES NORTHWESTWARD AT AROUND 15 MPH. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW
CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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