Storm Flooded/Damaged Coastlines; Rebuild, Buy-Out, Abandon?

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Storm Flooded/Damaged Coastlines; Rebuild, Buy-Out, Abandon?

#1 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:10 am

Although this story is about the northeast, it could easily be about anywhere along the Atlantic or Gulf coasts.

At issue is the cost of rebuilding properties flood after flood. FEMA's National Flood Insurance Program, which was almost $18 billion in debt before Sandy, has paid "a disproportionate share" of claims to properties that have flooded more than once, according to a 2011 report by the Congressional Research Service. Of the properties for which homeowners filed claims, less than 1 percent received 30 percent of FEMA's payments.

"The projections are the ocean will rise another two to three feet over the next century. And it's going to make it tougher and tougher to protect anything you rebuild," said Larry Larson, senior policy adviser at the Association of State Floodplain Managers, which represents local government planners.

"You have to look at this from an economic standpoint. Don't just blindly rebuild in places where you were destroyed," he said.

On the Jersey Shore, where closely packed homes and condos house millions of tourists, that will likely be a tough sell.

Towns are already in a dash to restore their beachfronts before Memorial Day. In Ocean County, the mayor of Seaside Heights said last week that a washed-out amusement pier's downed roller coaster - famously photographed sticking out of the ocean - might make for a good tourist attraction next year.

In Long Beach Township, where 62 properties have accounted for 190 federal flood insurance claims since 1978, Mayor Joe Mancini said the high value of oceanfront property made it unlikely any parcels would be abandoned.

"I don't think FEMA wants to pay a half-million dollars for a 40-foot lot," he said. "I'm not opposed to it; it's just never going to happen."

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local ... Shore.html

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Personally, I think if you choose to live in those areas, you get one, maybe two payouts from the Flood Insurance program and/or FEMA. After that, nothing. If the property is damaged it would not be eligible for any state or federal relief funds at all. This would apply to the parcel of land in perpetuity, regardless of ownership.

Possibly even a change to zoning to prohibit rebuilding on severely damaged parcels. No buyout. You can still own it and use it for temporary purposes like an RV, but no permanent structures could be built. Yes, I'm aware that would severely de-value those properties over time, but those are the risks you would need to take.

The article repeatedly mentions 'once in a lifetime' or 'once in 100 years', but Irene and Sandy make it twice in two years for some areas. Those areas could get hit just as hard or harder next year, or maybe not for the next 50 years. Florida was hit 4 times in one year, but nothing significant since.
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Re: Storm Flooded/Damaged Coastlines; Rebuild, Buy-Out, Abandon?

#2 Postby vbhoutex » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:15 pm

If someone chooses to live on a barrier island(they are called that for a reason)then I think they should have to bear all the costs involved in any building or rebuilding. I don't think insurance or the government should be bear those costs. Yes, they are beautiful places to live, but they are also natural barriers that protect the coast behind them when they are not destroyed by building structures on them. If we allow any kind of living on them I might think that the structures and infrastructure necessary for camping would be allowed as well as the rebuilding of them after storms. I have always felt that there should be no permanent structures allowed on barrier islands and I have lived on or near the Gulf Coast almost all my life.
When you begin talking about places like Long Island or the immediate coast it gets much more difficult imo. Perhaps a zone system of some sort needs to be set up which would allow rebuilding as long as VERY STRICT building codes were followed and Insurance or proof of financial responsibility to accomplish it is in place. Of course consideration would also have to be given to having public areas for those not able to afford the costs on a long term basis. I do believe though that the brunt of rebuilding costs should be carried by the individuals and not the government even in this situation and no more than 1 rebuild be allowed during a 25 year cycle unless the full cost is taken care of by the individual.
Does this make living on the coast something only the rich can afford? Possibly so, but I would also presume rentals would be available.
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#3 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:29 pm

I really can't think of any populated area along the coasts from Texas to Massachusetts that hasn't taken a significant hit sometime in the last 20-30 years, so there really isn't any area that could be considered immune.
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#4 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:04 pm

What about inland flooding considerations? Of the 20 costliest storms, 4 of them (Agnes, Irene, Allison and Floyd) had most of their damage come from inland flooding.
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Re: Storm Flooded/Damaged Coastlines; Rebuild, Buy-Out, Abandon?

#5 Postby MGC » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:20 pm

Since Uncle Sam has offered flood insurance, building near bodies of water have boomed. As taxpayers, we are subsidizing the wealthy. Most of the Mississippi coast remains unbuilt after Katrina. Yes, a few fools have rebuilt on their original footprint, at ground level across the street from the Mississippi Sound, but the majority have not. Considering how high one must now build to qualify for flood insurance, few have elected to rebuild. One must also consider wind insurance. These factors make it difficult to rebuild. If another Katrina would hit Mississippi today there would be little damage as the first several blocks along the beach are now abandoned. I feel sorry for the folks up in NJ and NY who are likely going to be under the new FEMA rules that will make it very difficult to rebuild.......MGC
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