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East of tobago

#1 Postby christchurchguy » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:14 am

Shear still seems strong, NHC says 1009 low at 11N

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Re: East of tobago

#2 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:48 am

ATLANTIC OCEAN...

A 1028 MB HIGH IS CENTERED OVER THE W ATLANTIC NEAR 36N65W. A STATIONARY FRONT EXTENDS FROM THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC AT 32N44W TO 26N50W TO 21N56W. A SHEAR LINE CONTINUES TO E CUBA AT 20N74W. A GALE IS W OF THE STATIONARY FRONT N OF 28N BETWEEN 45W-60W. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS WITHIN 180 NM OF THE FRONT. A 1036 MB HIGH IS CENTERED OVER THE E ATLANTIC NEAR 47N15W. A RIDGE AXIS EXTENDS SW TO 30N35W. IN THE TROPICS... A SURFACE TROUGH IS E OF THE LESSER ANTILLES FROM 14N58W TO 9N59W. A 1009 MB LOW IS EMBEDDED ON THE TROUGH AT 11N58W. SCATTERED SHOWERS ARE WITHIN 90 NM OF THE TROUGH. IN THE UPPER LEVELS...A RIDGE IS OVER THE W ATLANTIC W OF 60W. A SHARP UPPER LEVEL TROUGH IS OVER THE E ATLANTIC N OF 10N BETWEEN 20W-40W. EXPECT OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS FOR A 1009 MB LOW TO DEVELOP ON THE FRONT NEAR 26N51W WITH CONVECTION. ALSO EXPECT THE SURFACE TROUGH AND LOW TO BE NEAR TRINIDAD IN 24 HOURS WITH SHOWERS.
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Re: East of tobago

#3 Postby Hurricanehink » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:47 am

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/IN1/flash-vis-long.html - has a floater. Can see the circulation and convection
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Re: East of tobago

#4 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:44 pm

Nice little cumulonimbus cloud over the center. Doesn't this have a closed circulation already? It looks like a tropical cyclone to me.

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#5 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:53 pm

This has been a very unique feature. It is tiny, but it indeed sure looks like a miniture tropical storm does it? Actually, I am surprised it has survived the shear which has been present down there the past few days.
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#6 Postby galaxy401 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Doesn't look bad at all. Most likely poof though.
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#7 Postby Hurricane_Luis » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:46 pm

TXNT28 KNES 171818
TCSNTL

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE

B. 17/1745Z

C. 11.9N

D. 59.5W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.0/1.0/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...AFTER BEING DEVOID OF CONVECTION FOR SEVERAL HOURS THIS
MORNING CONVECTION HAS RETURNED...IF ONLY BRIEFLY GIVEN THE HIGH SHEAR
ENVIRONMENT...AND MEASURES SLIGHTLY GREATER THAN 2/10 FOR A DT OF 1.0. MET
AND PT ARE ALSO 1.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


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The shear isn't going to stop. 30-50 knots in its Path.
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#8 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:54 pm

Hurricane_Luis wrote:TXNT28 KNES 171818
TCSNTL

A. TROPICAL DISTURBANCE

B. 17/1745Z

C. 11.9N

D. 59.5W

E. THREE/GOES-E

F. T1.0/1.0/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS

H. REMARKS...AFTER BEING DEVOID OF CONVECTION FOR SEVERAL HOURS THIS
MORNING CONVECTION HAS RETURNED...IF ONLY BRIEFLY GIVEN THE HIGH SHEAR
ENVIRONMENT...AND MEASURES SLIGHTLY GREATER THAN 2/10 FOR A DT OF 1.0. MET
AND PT ARE ALSO 1.0. FT IS BASED ON DT.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

NIL


...TURK

The shear isn't going to stop. 30-50 knots in its Path.



As usual.
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Re: East of tobago

#9 Postby wxman57 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:01 pm

Sort of like 2008's Marco. Small storms can spin up quickly (and spin down quickly).
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#10 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:35 pm

wxman57 wrote:Sort of like 2008's Marco. Small storms can spin up quickly (and spin down quickly).


I have a strange feeling this will be a TS in post-season analysis.
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#11 Postby TheEuropean » Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:33 pm

Why isn't this at least an invest?
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#12 Postby ozonepete » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:17 pm

TheEuropean wrote:Why isn't this at least an invest?


Corrected: Other than the floater I don't see it getting picked up as tropical, but it sure looks like a TD the last few hours.
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#13 Postby ozonepete » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:27 pm

It's in an area of very light steering winds but appears to be drifting ENE. Since the shear there looks to be blowing from the west towards the ENE to NE, i.e. in the same direction as the low's motion, that's probably helping keep the convection with the LLC right now. But the shear is godawful down there so I can't possibly see this lasting much longer. But it's pretty cool how this popped up so fast. As wxman57 said, these little ones can spin up really quickly but spin down just as fast.
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#14 Postby christchurchguy » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:20 pm

Update : looks better organized right here

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#15 Postby christchurchguy » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:28 pm

Doppler Wind Field seems tight and well defined to me right now

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#16 Postby Hammy » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:28 pm

christchurchguy wrote:Update : looks better organized right here

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I would be highly surprised if this does not at least get mentioned in the next outlook.
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#17 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:32 am

Looks like this was a tropical depression this morning. I emailed the NHC about it.
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#18 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:40 am

That almost looks like an eye on radar! I'm sure it's just an open slot. This may have been a TD briefly. It's gone now.
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#19 Postby Hammy » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:01 am

Maintained convection fairly consistently since this morning and fairly organized at the surface, shocked there has still been no mention from this from NHC or invest on NRL.
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#20 Postby somethingfunny » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:14 am

It actually has a floater page up and has for several hours, but no Invest number.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... oater.html
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