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Western Gulf of Mexico....

#1 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:04 am

I believe I see some spin over eastern Mexico and Convection is building with this out over the western Gulf. There is nothing else going on, at least needs to be monitored. One thing for sure, lots of moisture surging northward toward TX.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-vis.html
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#2 Postby srainhoutx » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:31 am

The NCEP Tropical Cyclone Genesis Probabilities have been very insistent on some sort of disturbed weather developing in this area for multiple days. Surface pressures are a bit low, but a MCV moved offshore from Monterrey yesterday and very deep convection has maintained oovernight. It is sheared, but a trough does extend across the Western Gulf with PW's near 2.5 And the general movement is N to NW into the shear axis across Texas and Western Louisiana.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#3 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:04 am

The shear in the area is still quite high. If the convection persists over the GOM and the shear diminishes, we could have a home grown system.

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#4 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:28 am

Compare 20, 30, 40, 50 and 60 knots of wind shear over the deep tropics and Caribbean Sea with values of 5-10 knots of shear over the whole portion of the EPAC in the image and that is just one thing that tells you the EPAC is acting very different from the rest of the northern hemisphere. :eek:
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#5 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:13 pm

The GOM does look very disturbed today. IMO

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-avn.html
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#6 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:23 pm

Looks can be deceiving, there is a trough extending off the Mexican coast but those bright red IR cloud tops are displaced ENE by shear. If there is an elongated circulation much of that is still over land.
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#7 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:24 pm

Just good tropical moisture!!!
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#8 Postby hurricanes1234 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:13 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Just good tropical moisture!!!


Yes, I personally don't see any development from this. Conditions are too hostile at the moment, it's situated in roughly 50 knots of wind shear! :P Most tropical cyclones can barely stand up to 25 knots.

Edit: I really meant development in terms of tropical cyclones.
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#9 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:30 pm

Call it what you want but there are some serious storms developing in the West GOM right now. If it holds together and makes it onshore someone is going to get in on some very heavy rains. IMO
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#10 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:11 pm

The wind shear is only around 10kts over the big blow up in the western gulf.

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#11 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:34 pm

If this area persist into tonight near Texas they might lemon 10% it or even maybe give it an invest designation if the convection remains strong but as is it wouldn't have much time to do anything

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#12 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:04 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:If this area persist into tonight near Texas they might lemon 10% it or even maybe give it an invest designation if the convection remains strong but as is it wouldn't have much time to do anything

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The first thing that comes to mind is Hurricane Humberto(2007) which rapidly intensified in the same region in less than 24hrs. Though something like seems very unlikely to happen here.
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#13 Postby Dean4Storms » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:24 pm

Shear is high except the very NW portion of the Gulf where that deep convection is located. Think if it had a day or two there it might make a run at it.
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#14 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:06 pm

This is a good loop where you can see the sheer from the front blowing up convection.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseasthurrwv.html

Usually when the front lifts out and the shear settles down, the convection eases.

If there is low pressure at the surface with a low level circulation that would be different. Worth watching.
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#15 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:30 pm

Very interesting that this is the vorticity near the LA coast the GFS shows coming across the SE US then exiting the Carolinas into the Atlantic by later this weekend and possibly developing.
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#16 Postby Steve820 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:30 pm

This is interesting, but I don't think we'll see a depression or named storm out of this. At most, I expect a strong invest since it seems like wind shear is high and it has little time over water before moving into Texas.
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#17 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:48 pm

Steve820 wrote:This is interesting, but I don't think we'll see a depression or named storm out of this. At most, I expect a strong invest since it seems like wind shear is high and it has little time over water before moving into Texas.

An Invest seems unlikely at this point IMO. It's falling apart and cloud tops are really warming in that area.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#18 Postby Dean4Storms » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:38 am

This would be interesting if 50-100 miles further east of Brownsville and Shear dropped.


http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=BRO&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#19 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:15 am

Development chances near zero - maybe 0.00001%
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico....

#20 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:07 am

I thought it was less than that. :lol:

wxman57 wrote:Development chances near zero - maybe 0.00001%
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