Disturbed area north of Hispaniola and Puerto Rico

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Disturbed area north of Hispaniola and Puerto Rico

#1 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:37 am

This area, although under persistent shear, has been able to regenerate convection off and on the past couple of days. It is doing again this morning, with a nice convective burst occurring late this morning. No model support for now,and there is an ULL to the northeast of the system out at around approx. 29N 62W. I am not anticipating any development short term, but if the shear can abate some, this may be something to monitor down the road.
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#2 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:47 am

JAX absolutely this is the time of year everything needs watching. Been looking at this also but the shear needs to let up.

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#3 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:17 am

Is the shear from the ULL to the northeast enhancing this convection?
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#4 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:21 am

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Shear really drops off in the area just east of the Bahamas, just to the northwest of where this system is currently located.

If this vorticity can stay intact and reach that area in the short term, I think there may be a chance for this to try to spin up down the road. Also, the models are forecasting a mid-level ridge to build from the GOM eastward across Florida peninsula to the Bahamas by middle part of this week.
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#5 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:31 am

TheStormExpert wrote:Is the shear from the ULL to the northeast enhancing this convection?


Yes, the ULL is for the time being. It is causing not only shear, but UL diffluence in that area, which is helping with convection enhancement. However, there is some vorticity at 850mb currently , so if the vorticity can maintain and drift northwest in the short term, current shear analysis which I just posted above really shows shear drops off significantly. This may allow for much more conducive conditions for this system to develop down the road if it is not sheared to death before then.
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Re: Disturbed area north of Puerto Rico

#6 Postby rockyman » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:09 pm

Levi Cowan is watching this. See his tweet @TropicalTidbits
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#7 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:09 pm

This is getting organized. Any idea where the steering currents take it?
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#8 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:13 pm

Well, I agree with Cowan for sure. He is observing the same things I am. Vorticity is there and conditions are better just to the northwest of the system.

If, and for the moment a big IF, this is still around after the next 36 hours, I am willing to state now we may have something to monitor other than 96L this week.
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Re: Disturbed area north of Puerto Rico

#9 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:15 pm

rockyman wrote:Levi Cowan is watching this. See his tweet @TropicalTidbits
Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits 16m16 minutes ago

Levi Cowan ‏@TropicalTidbits 17m Can't lose sight of sneaky wave N of Hispaniola. Sheared for now & not forecasted to develop, but will end up in gulf
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#10 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:16 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:This is getting organized. Any idea where the steering currents take it?


It should head west. You can see the 700MB ridging blocking it from moving north, 60 hours below courtesy of the GFS:

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#11 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:17 pm

gatorcane wrote:
NCSTORMMAN wrote:This is getting organized. Any idea where the steering currents take it?


It should head west. You can see the 700MB ridging blocking it from moving north, 60 hours below courtesy of the GFS:

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Okay that is worrying. I see favorable conditions ahead for it. What is going to stop it from developing if it heads west?
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#12 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:17 pm

:uarrow: That's right gatorcane. It would most likely enter into the GOM later in the week if the system can stay intact.
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#13 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:21 pm

Hmmm, there is some low-level vorticity, that wasn't there before:
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#14 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:23 pm

:uarrow: I did not get around to posting that image gatorcane after discussing it in this thread, so thanks for posting this to everyone.
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#15 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:32 pm

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#16 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:41 pm

if you look at Visible Loop you see ull move east alway from area that could lessen shear http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/h5-loop-vis.html
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#17 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:47 pm

:uarrow:

The wave itself is moving west-northwest currently. If the vorticity can remain in tact, it should be moving into a more conducive environment based on the latest shear analysis which I posted on this page. Definitely something to monitor .
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#18 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:51 pm

No mention by the NHC because there is zero model support - but doesn't mean the models may start latching on in future runs.
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#19 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:53 pm

:uarrow: Precisely gatorcane. Models could begin to latch onto this system sooner than you may realize in my estimation.
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Re: Disturbed area north of Hispaniola and Puerto Rico

#20 Postby rolltide » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:14 pm

If this holds together things could get very interesting when it reaches the southern Bahamas. Storms have been known to form rapidly in that area.


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