Despite the new model run, Isabel continues NW, now near 16N

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
Renata
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 96
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:19 pm
Location: Holetown, Barbados

Despite the new model run, Isabel continues NW, now near 16N

#1 Postby Renata » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:13 pm

I do appreciate models ... those computers can calculate much faster than we human beings ... however one missing factor in the equation often is the hurricane ... someone usually forgets to tell the hurricanes.

Despite the new model run, at 4:00 pm Isabel continues NW. The estimated center is now near 16N 39W up from 14.5N 37.7W at 11 am. This is a mighty fast speed at 317 degrees or NW.

The 11 am forecast anticipated that at 11 pm tonight it would be at 15.5N and 39W.

The only way to prove the accuracy of the forecast and models is with time. Let's wait until 11 pm and measure again. If this thing is moving so rapidly NW then I am extremely interested in knowing what is going to
force it SW. These systems are so dynamic, one can never tell!
0 likes   

rob8303
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 147
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:20 pm
Location: Montrose, B.C, Canada
Contact:

#2 Postby rob8303 » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:24 pm

So, Renata, not only is the gom in the clear but CONUS is too? Is that what you're implying. Great news!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
0 likes   

User avatar
Stormsfury
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10549
Age: 53
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:27 pm
Location: Summerville, SC

#3 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:32 pm

The building ridge left in the wake of departing Fabian ... that would generally end up forcing Isabel back westerly and some hints WSW...

The 12z GFS shows this ... and in fact, just about the model guidance shows this ... Isabel right now is advancing WNW to NW on the SWern edge of an elongated Azores High, however, as Fabian exits a new ridge builds down and also thrown into the mix is the potential future Juan to its east which may or may not have some role (Fujiwhara Effect) in keeping Isabel further west while the current invest 97L is drawn more northward.

GFS
http://met.psu.edu/trop-cgi/avntc2.cgi? ... =Animation

SF
0 likes   

rob8303
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 147
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:20 pm
Location: Montrose, B.C, Canada
Contact:

#4 Postby rob8303 » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:37 pm

Many thanks SF :D Appreciate the insight! When should the more westerly track continue if models haven't busted?
0 likes   

MWatkins
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 2574
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2002 7:51 pm
Location: SE Florida
Contact:

Respectfully Disagree

#5 Postby MWatkins » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:37 pm

Latest available imagery from meteosat at 4PM shows that the eye is starting to fill a bit...and the center is probably on the south side of that feature. And the northern portion of the eye is just touching the 16 degree line...

MW
0 likes   

Renata
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 96
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:19 pm
Location: Holetown, Barbados

#6 Postby Renata » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:39 pm

rob8303 wrote:So, Renata, not only is the gom in the clear but CONUS is too? Is that what you're implying. Great news!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


:o Oops!, No I did not mean to imply this. I am not looking that far ahead ... my forward look is just a few hours not days. Sorry ...
0 likes   

rob8303
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 147
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:20 pm
Location: Montrose, B.C, Canada
Contact:

#7 Postby rob8303 » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:42 pm

OK, Renata. no harm, no foul. appreciate your posts by the way.
0 likes   

Derek Ortt

#8 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:43 pm

The WNW track is expected to continue for about 36-48 more hours, before the westerly turn occurs
0 likes   

Guest

#9 Postby Guest » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:48 pm

what about the model run earlier where is was showing a WSW motion? Has that changed!

Great to see you here posting MWatkins !!!!

Patricia
0 likes   

User avatar
Stormsfury
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 10549
Age: 53
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 6:27 pm
Location: Summerville, SC

#10 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:55 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:The WNW track is expected to continue for about 36-48 more hours, before the westerly turn occurs


Yep ... and that could coincide with a burst of rapid strengthening as well...

SF
0 likes   

User avatar
wx247
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 14279
Age: 41
Joined: Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:35 pm
Location: Monett, Missouri
Contact:

#11 Postby wx247 » Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:55 pm

I don't know if it has been a complete NW movement, but more of a WNW track. We shall see what happens with the future track is Isabel, but it looks nailbiting to say the least.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Renata
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 96
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2003 8:19 pm
Location: Holetown, Barbados

#12 Postby Renata » Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:02 pm

wx247 wrote:I don't know if it has been a complete NW movement, but more of a WNW track. We shall see what happens with the future track is Isabel, but it looks nailbiting to say the least.



Excellent description! You hit the nail on the head - no pun intended.
0 likes   

ColdFront77

#13 Postby ColdFront77 » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:21 pm

wx247 wrote:I don't know if it has been a complete NW movement, but more of a WNW track. We shall see what happens with the future track is Isabel, but it looks nailbiting to say the least.

Renata wrote:Excellent description! You hit the nail on the head - no pun intended.

Good one, Renata. I liked that. :D :lol:

rob8303 wrote:So, Renata, not only is the gom in the clear but CONUS is too? Is that what you're implying. Great news!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Rob, it isn't such a good idea to believe that a system that shows no signs of moving out to sea called a "fish storm." :)
0 likes   

User avatar
ChaserUK
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 630
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:10 pm
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands
Contact:

#14 Postby ChaserUK » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:25 pm

well I am still hoping to catch a hurricane this year - what are your thoughts on Isabel - is there a chance of an EC strike?
0 likes   

User avatar
wow
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 237
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:59 pm
Location: Raleigh, NC

#15 Postby wow » Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:32 pm

wx247 wrote:I don't know if it has been a complete NW movement, but more of a WNW track. We shall see what happens with the future track is Isabel, but it looks nailbiting to say the least.


She was moving purely NW for a short period:

Image
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ethaninfinity, Killjoy12, StormWeather and 60 guests