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Images to follow the SAL

#1 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:32 pm

I did this last year and was a bit late to start this year, but I again have SSMi SAL imagery available on nwhhc.

http://www.nwhhc.com/salimages/

This year, I have included both of the day's passes on the same page, making it a bit more user friendly
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#2 Postby Dave C » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:33 pm

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#3 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:34 pm

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#4 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:37 pm

total precipitable water content = SAL ? or in general terms? Please clarify..Thanks :)
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#5 Postby USAwx1 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:39 pm

Aquawind wrote:total precipitable water content = SAL ? or in general terms? Please clarify..Thanks :)


Areas where the SAL is especially strong are very dry. Therefore PW will be lower.
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#6 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:40 pm

The blue areas represent the dry regions; thus, the SAL areas
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#7 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:41 pm

USAwx1 wrote:
Aquawind wrote:total precipitable water content = SAL ? or in general terms? Please clarify..Thanks :)


Areas where the SAL is especially strong are very dry. Therefore PW will be lower.


Well of course..SAL itself is more specific than dry air though..I mean dry air alone does not mean SAL or does it?
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#8 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:41 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:The blue areas represent the dry regions; thus, the SAL areas


I am not stupid.
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#9 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:41 pm

no, but checl out wher eit is coming from. That makes it easy to detect
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#10 Postby USAwx1 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:42 pm

Aquawind wrote:
USAwx1 wrote:
Aquawind wrote:total precipitable water content = SAL ? or in general terms? Please clarify..Thanks :)


Areas where the SAL is especially strong are very dry. Therefore PW will be lower.


Well of course..SAL itself is more specific than dry air though..I mean dry air alone does not mean SAL or does it?


No not always. SAL is also associated with a significant temperature inversion.
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#11 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:43 pm

Unless SAL is in all dry air?
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#12 Postby Matthew5 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:46 pm

Remember The SAL comes from the Deserts of Africa(Sand that floats in the Atmosphere) This moves out into the Atlatnic oceans in kills off the storms. Dry air doe's not have sand or anything to do with it but it's just dry.
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#13 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:46 pm

Were getting closer..The Graphic is more in general terms of SAL possibly located in these Drier(Blue) areas and more likely the closer to the African Coast.. :wink:
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#14 Postby USAwx1 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:48 pm

heres a rundown on SAL that i posted earlier this year.

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The term SAL was first coined by Atmospheric Chemist Joe prospero, and an associate of his, Toby Carlson of PSU.

SAL forms in a very dry and well-mixed environment over the Sahel region of Africa that propagates westward and eventually is undercut by an area of cool and more moist air (since cooler air is more dense it sinks) after coming off the coast. The airmass is VERY DRY and consists of Mineral dust lifted from the Surface of the desert.

Why and How does SAL effect tropical systems? The answer is b/c SAL is associated with significant increases in VERTICAL shear in response to the development of a stronger easterly jet, temperature inversion (w/ a pronounced warm layer above the cooler air) and of course DRY AIR.

All of these things can inhibit TC development.
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#15 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:51 pm

Aquawind wrote:total precipitable water content = SAL ? or in general terms? Please clarify..Thanks :)



so...total precipitable water content ~SAL...but certainly not SAL itself..just in genreal terms...geesh that was hard..LOL

Geesh I even had SAL explained to me..lol

What other graphics are used for SAL interpretation Derek or anyone else?
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#16 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:52 pm

Thanks USA..I read all your posts.. :wink:
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#18 Postby USAwx1 » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:55 pm

Aquawind wrote:Thanks USA..I read all your posts.. :wink:


No problem. Check out the link in my last post for more sal maps/
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#19 Postby Aquawind » Mon Aug 02, 2004 5:00 pm

Says Analysis..
GOES-12 10.7 µm (Ch. 4) and 12 µm (Ch. 5) IR channels


Is this superimposed model data or combined sattelite channels?
Is this Sattelite interpretation alone or is there other data input into the Analysis?
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