Frances forming an eye at the last minute

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Frances forming an eye at the last minute

#1 Postby PurdueWx80 » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:36 am

probably due to frictional effects of land and super-warm water in NE Gulf. Visible satellite also confirms deep-ish convection surrounding the eye-like feature.

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#2 Postby Brent » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:41 am

That whole blob and the center is coming my way. Haul it onshore Frances!!!
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#3 Postby Aquawind » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:43 am

Trying to get one last peek..
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#4 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:47 am

You are looking at a struggling declining system with most of its good side over land sputtering before finally moving on shore. That feature is at best a weak tropical storm axis lingering over warm water. It's weakening influence, the dry air on its SW side, is still obviously fully in place.

Frances really taught me a lesson on my assumed presumptions about cyclones. She really beat most of my pre-concepts on hurricane behavior. She didn't shift left under a firm ridge, but instead compromised in a slowing track right into it and wound down. Anti-climatic, and equally as grinding to those who think they knew storms...
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#5 Postby Innotech » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:53 am

Sanibel wrote:You are looking at a struggling declining system with most of its good side over land sputtering before finally moving on shore. That feature is at best a weak tropical storm axis lingering over warm water. It's weakening influence, the dry air on its SW side, is still obviously fully in place.

Frances really taught me a lesson on my assumed presumptions about cyclones. She really beat most of my pre-concepts on hurricane behavior. She didn't shift left under a firm ridge, but instead compromised in a slowing track right into it and wound down. Anti-climatic, and equally as grinding to those who think they knew storms...


yeah it had a lot of people in confusion (including me) but it did hsow that a strong ridge will NOT allow full passage, which is why I kept saying no Carolinas hit.
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#6 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:00 am

Sanibel wrote:You are looking at a struggling declining system with most of its good side over land sputtering before finally moving on shore. That feature is at best a weak tropical storm axis lingering over warm water. It's weakening influence, the dry air on its SW side, is still obviously fully in place.


Yep, I agree. Here's a 15Z plot with a radar overlay to prove it. Still no obs of over 35kts offshore. Minimal TS at best, so it has no eye. Just a ring of showers around the center:

<img src="http://myweb.cableone.net/nolasue/francessfc2.gif">
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#7 Postby Storminole » Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:41 am

It looks like Frances is about to make her final landfall near the St. Marks lighthouse in the NE corner of the GOM. Built in 1832 and now located in a wildlife refuge, it's weathered many a storm. This is well east of Apalachicola, and Frances' center apparently has been heading more NNW than NW over the past several hours.

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