Please don't laugh at this opinion...
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Please don't laugh at this opinion...
Let me get this straight...I do not agree with the NHC forecast for several reasons. Here they are...
1. It's going to be just a matter of time until the ULL out in the Atlantic significantly weakens a rather strong high pressure ridge, which at one time extended over eastern Florida.
2. The high pressure ridge near Texas is starting to block the areas from the western panhandle of Florida to points westwards from any chance of Ivan making landfall.
3. A trough is expected to dip down and pull Ivan north and maybe Northeast. This can be proven by the latest NHC forecast track; although its a bit farther west, it eventually shows a turn towards the Northeast before making landfall.
4. Ivan is moving slower than anticipated. Mr. Derek Ortt said that slower movement could mean an adjustment of the track rightwards.
5. Many of the computer models are downplaying if not completely ignoring the interaction of the ULL.
Lastly, many of you may ask, "But Ivan moved well south of Jamaica, so shouldn't a westerly trend continue"?
My response is simply that as the ULL moved west, part of the ridge was forced to wrap around it and move farther south and west, causing ivan to take a due west if not wsw track temporarily. As the ULL moves even closer to Florida, expect the western end of the high pressure ridge to significantly weaken.
Before major hurricanes make a change in their direction, they usually slow down. Ivan has been slowing down more and more. From the latest satellite loops, it may even be nearly stationary.
One very last thing, yesterday night i saw an interesting discussion...
http://www.wxrisk.com/hurricane/hurrica ... m#ANALYSIS:
here is the latest WV loop
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
My landfall projection is from New Port Richey somewhere south to Key West. Basically, I think Ivan will affect the peninsula instead of the panhandle. The west coast should stay informed.
1. It's going to be just a matter of time until the ULL out in the Atlantic significantly weakens a rather strong high pressure ridge, which at one time extended over eastern Florida.
2. The high pressure ridge near Texas is starting to block the areas from the western panhandle of Florida to points westwards from any chance of Ivan making landfall.
3. A trough is expected to dip down and pull Ivan north and maybe Northeast. This can be proven by the latest NHC forecast track; although its a bit farther west, it eventually shows a turn towards the Northeast before making landfall.
4. Ivan is moving slower than anticipated. Mr. Derek Ortt said that slower movement could mean an adjustment of the track rightwards.
5. Many of the computer models are downplaying if not completely ignoring the interaction of the ULL.
Lastly, many of you may ask, "But Ivan moved well south of Jamaica, so shouldn't a westerly trend continue"?
My response is simply that as the ULL moved west, part of the ridge was forced to wrap around it and move farther south and west, causing ivan to take a due west if not wsw track temporarily. As the ULL moves even closer to Florida, expect the western end of the high pressure ridge to significantly weaken.
Before major hurricanes make a change in their direction, they usually slow down. Ivan has been slowing down more and more. From the latest satellite loops, it may even be nearly stationary.
One very last thing, yesterday night i saw an interesting discussion...
http://www.wxrisk.com/hurricane/hurrica ... m#ANALYSIS:
here is the latest WV loop
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
My landfall projection is from New Port Richey somewhere south to Key West. Basically, I think Ivan will affect the peninsula instead of the panhandle. The west coast should stay informed.
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NateFLA wrote:dennis1x1 wrote:all that and no landfall prediction...if you disagree where do you say its going?
let me guess....miami as a cat 5?
Why was that necessary at all?
He is allowed to assert his opinion in an intelligent manner, which he backed up with supporting ideas.
What are you doing?
How much for Philly?
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dennis he was just giving his opinion...your right he didnt make a landfall position...mostly becuase he wasnt trying to make one...all he was saying was through his eyes he sees some flaws in the current forecast...how these things would affect the eventual path of ivan was not his point...his point was through his eyes there seems to be some flaws in the forecas...so be nice please....(referring to "let me guess....miami as a cat 5?" comment)
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dennis1x1 does not contribute in any way, watching his posts, he disagrees with everyone and anyone, but has no evidence to support. Makes fun of mets, who are obviously doing MUCH better job than him. WHO MAKES FUN OF METS?!
This is very reasonable forecast, given the slowing down of the cane.
This is very reasonable forecast, given the slowing down of the cane.
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Hey, Have you seen DT's/wxrisk's noon update?
He now says it may take longer to turn north but there has been a change and instead of moving due north for so long, it will turn NE sooner due to a change in the ridge... I still think the slowing down is also making panhandle less likely... If it stays stronger than predicted, Upper level winds will turn it quicker as well as steering is different the stronger the storm is... West Coast definitely not outta the woods yet IMHO...
http://www.wxrisk.com/hurricane/hurrica ... m#ANALYSIS:
He now says it may take longer to turn north but there has been a change and instead of moving due north for so long, it will turn NE sooner due to a change in the ridge... I still think the slowing down is also making panhandle less likely... If it stays stronger than predicted, Upper level winds will turn it quicker as well as steering is different the stronger the storm is... West Coast definitely not outta the woods yet IMHO...
http://www.wxrisk.com/hurricane/hurrica ... m#ANALYSIS:
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