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Coming Conditions for N FL/GA?

#1 Postby JenyEliza » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:11 pm

Anyone know what the coming 24 hours looks like for N. FL and GA?

How far north into GA will Jeanne go before heading east? What are major threats/impacts for this area?

Peachtree City seems to be in a holding pattern on forecasting for Cent GA and Metro Atlanta areas, so wondering what you folks thought.

Had a SWS earlier today....that has been taken down. Nothing since 3:30 area discussion. So wondering what the scoop is and if we should be getting ready up here for deteriorating conditions.

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#2 Postby JenyEliza » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:17 pm

Oops. Spoke too soon. This is discussion from 5:40 (which just posted online).

000
FXUS62 KFFC 262157 AAA
AFDFFC

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PEACHTREE CITY GA
540 PM EDT SUN SEP 26 2004

.SHORT TERM...
PATTERN SET BY PATH OF JEANNE. GFS MODEL OF CHOICE. TPC AND HPC GUIDELINES FOLLOWED. HOWEVER...DID UP POPS EAST AS WILL DEFINITELY GET RAIN THERE. AVN MOS GUIDANCE FOLLOWED CLOSELY FOR TEMPERATURES.

850MB WINDS INCREASE AFTER 00Z AS OUTER BANDS OF JEANNE BEGIN TO MOVE OVER THE STATE. THIS IS REASON FOR HIGH WIND WATCH. HELICITIES AND SHEAR ACROSS RAIN BANDS INDICATE AGAIN A POSSIBILITY AS PER IVAN FOR LOW TOP SHORT LIVED TORNADOES WITH JEANNE...BUT IT MUST BE EMPHASIZED THAT THIS IS A MINIMAL THREAT.

RAINFALL WITH JEANNE SHOULD BE 4-6 INCHES ALONG AND EAST OF THE STORMS PATH. WITH FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE NEAR 3 INCHES AND ANTECEDENT RAINFALL...ISSUED THE FLOOD WATCH.

AS THE SHORT WAVE IN THE NORTH STREAM MOVES OUT OF THE GREAT
LAKES...IT CATCHES JEANNE AND TAKES IT NORTHEAST..THERE WILL BE RAPID CLEARING TUESDAY FROM 12Z ON AS PER IVAN.


.LONG TERM...
IN GENERAL A SURFACE HIGH AND RIDGE ALOFT MOVE ACROSS THE STATE MID WEEK. RETURN FLOW AROUND THE SURFACE HIGH MAY PRODUCE SOME RETURNING MOISTURE AND POSSIBLE SHOWERS WEEK'S END, BUT FOR NOW WILL LEAVE DRY AS UNCERTAINTY AMONG MODELS HIGH.

&&

.AVIATION...
MAIN CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY JEANNE. TRACK APPEARS TO BE SLIGHTLY FURTHER EAST THAN EARLIER EXPECTED...TAKING IT TO NEAR VLD BY 12Z MON...THEN NNE TOWARD AGS BY 00Z TUE. MAIN THREAT OF HEAVY RAIN AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS WILL BE EAST OF A VLD-MCN-AGS LINE.

CEILINGS...TREND NOW IS VFR UNTIL OUTER RAINBANDS MOVE IN FROM THE SOUTH...AT WHICH TIME CIGS TREND TOWARD MVFR. GIVEN EXPECTED TRACK OF THE REMNANTS OF JEANNE...DO NOT SEE PROLONGED PERIODS OF IFR FOR ATL...BUT EXTENDED PERIOD OF LOW MVFR...E.G...010-015 CAN BE EXPECTED ROUGHLY FROM 09Z-18Z MON.

VISIBILITY...AGAIN...GENERALLY VFR EXCEPT IN RAINBANDS. EXPECT
PREVAILING MVFR IN RAINBANDS AND CORE RAIN. BRIEF PERIOD OF IFR VISIBILITY WILL ACCOMPANY THE HEAVIEST RAIN BANDS. THE CORE RAIN AREA WILL REMAIN MOSTLY EAST OF MCN-AHN OVERNIGHT AND EARLY TUE...WITH JUST OUTER NORTHWESTERN RAINBANDS AFFECTING THE ATL-CSGAREA THROUGHOUT THE TAF VALID PERIOD.

WX...MOSTLY RAIN THROUGHOUT LIFETIME OF SYSTEM. CANNOT RULE OUT AN ISOLD TSRA IN THE EASTERN RAINBANDS...MAINLY EAST OF MCN-AGS...SO WILL REMOVE ALL MENTION OF TSRA IN CSG-ATL-AHN AREA WITH NEW TAF ISSUANCE.

WINDS...JEANNE SHOULD EXHIBIT WIND CHARACTERISTICS VERY SIMILAR TO FRANCES...ESPECIALLY FOR AREAS ALONG AND EAST OF THE TRACK. HENCE...THE STRONGEST WINDS WILL COME OVERNIGHT WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE EYE REMNANTS. FOR MCN...NE-N WINDS OF 25-35KTS WITH GUSTS TO 45 KTS POSSIBLE 06Z-12Z...GENERALLY 15-25KTS WITH GUSTS TO 30KTS 12Z-18Z...DIMINISHING AFTER 18Z. FOR ATL-CSG...GENERALLY 15-20KTS WITH GUSTS 25KTS INCREASING AFT 06Z 20-30KTS WITH GUSTS 35-40KTS UNTIL 14Z...THEN GENERALLY 20-25KTS GUSTS 30-35KTS 14Z-18Z...DIMINISHING AFTERWARDS. BY FAR...FOR THE FFC CWA...EXPECT WIND TO BE THE MAJOR IMPACT OF THIS SYSTEM BECAUSE OF FASTER FORWARD SPEED AND MOVEMENT OF CORE THROUGH CENTRAL/EASTERN PORTION OF CWA.

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
ATLANTA 64 78 65 81 / 40 70 50 10
ATHENS 64 78 65 81 / 40 99 80 10
GAINESVILLE 64 76 64 81 / 40 99 70 10
ROME 63 81 64 84 / 20 50 20 10
COLUMBUS 68 80 67 85 / 40 70 40 10
MACON 69 79 67 85 / 40 99 60 10
&&

.FFC WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE.
&&

$$

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#3 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:25 pm

N FL and S GA, the regions should possibly expect anywhere between 4"-8" of rain, gusty winds, and possible SVR/TORN along and right of a line N of Jeanne's center ...

FFC AFD's are written quite well on the weekends (kudos to whomever generally does the weekend discussions) and this one is no different ... The forecaster in charge there has also noticed that Jeanne has been consistent in running east of the TPC track today and the GFS definitely has had a better handle on her for Sunday ... interestingly enough, the ETA NOW has an ever sharper recurve, placing Jeanne just NW of Charleston, SC INSTEAD of the GFS's AGS (Augusta) in the next 36 hours ... so there's still some differences to resolve ...

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#4 Postby JenyEliza » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:31 pm

Thanks, Stormfury!! I appreciate the excellent translation(s) you get around here.

So (and I am just an average civilian here), my take on the NGA/Metro Atlanta area for Jeanne is just another nasty, rainy Monday--not much to worry about.

Macon/Athens/Augusta, are another kettle of fish. They'll be getting their "Ivan" (as compared to what Atlanta got).

Is this correct?

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#5 Postby Brent » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:40 pm

Atlanta will be fine. Some rain and gusty wind, but nothing significant. Tornado threat will be well east(as will the flooding).

What Augusta and Savannah won't be an Ivan, it'll be more like Frances. Ivan was still a hurricane when it got up into Central Alabama, this will be a TD.
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#6 Postby JenyEliza » Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:25 pm

Brent wrote:Atlanta will be fine. Some rain and gusty wind, but nothing significant. Tornado threat will be well east(as will the flooding).

What Augusta and Savannah won't be an Ivan, it'll be more like Frances. Ivan was still a hurricane when it got up into Central Alabama, this will be a TD.


Not that I'd wish this weather on anyone, and I'm sorry for everyone in GA who will go through this...but I'm glad we're not gonna get hit. Ivan beat us up pretty bad.

We had a large pine (65 ft) fall and miss our house (thank goodness), and shortly after that, all the rain-water run off from the middle school behind our house (which sits about 20 feet higher than we are) ended up in our yard and crawl space. In total, it was about 18 inches deep at the worst (didn't breach the living space but crawl space is very moldy musty now).

We really couldn't handle another onslaught after Frances and Ivan.

Last but not least, our schools were the last ones in the area to close. Kids went home on buses at the height of the storm. It was a nightmare I'm not anxious to repeat.

I'll take a little rain and wind, thanks! ;)
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#7 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:30 pm

Brent's right, Ivan fast northward movement and wind down coupled with very far reaching effects with strong winds, heavy rainfalls, and TOR in the NE quad where the greatest shear parameters were conducive for embedded supercells...

Jeanne is moving much slower than Ivan was and hence, should be down to a depression by tomorrow. Unlike Ivan, Jeanne's heaviest rain shield lies north and NW of the SFC circulation, but may still stay far enough east of the ATL as to not seriously aggravated flooding concerns ...

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