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#1 Postby mobilebay » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:45 pm

that the NHC was correct. The center is a little further west. If you look at the link below you will see what appears to be the LLC in the low cloud deck around 21.0 N and 84.9W.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html
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#2 Postby mobilebay » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:48 pm

Thats amazing. Me and stormcenter made the exact post 2 minutes apart.
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#3 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:48 pm

mobilebay wrote:that the NHC was correct. The center is a little further west. If you look at the link below you will see what appears to be the LLC in the low cloud deck around 21.0 N and 84.9W.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html


My apologies, I just posted the same observation. We must have noticed it at the same time.
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#4 Postby LSU2001 » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:49 pm

that is a nice little swirl there. I think that you maybe entirely correct in your analysis of the center. If that is the case then what are implications for later track?
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#5 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:50 pm

probably just another small center
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#6 Postby mobilebay » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:50 pm

lsu2001 wrote:that is a nice little swirl there. I think that you maybe entirely correct in your analysis of the center. If that is the case then what are implications for later track?
Tim

nothing really. Just a better defined center in my opinion.
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#7 Postby mobilebay » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:52 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:probably just another small center

I respect your opinion very much. However, in this case I think you are incorrect. It appears the entire cyclonic envelope is spinning around that vortex.
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#8 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:54 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:probably just another small center


It's doesn't look that way to me. As a matter a fact I don't see any other "small" centers other than that one. It's basically where the NHC had it located at 11pm.
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#9 Postby Steve » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:58 pm

Thing is though, it's IR. And you really can't tell what it is. You can see the heat but there might not be a whole lot with it. I think Jason Kelly said that was going to change in about 8 years when the night visibles would be available (unless he was only joking).

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#10 Postby Brent » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:59 pm

Steve wrote:Thing is though, it's IR. And you really can't tell what it is. You can see the heat but there might not be a whole lot with it. I think Jason Kelly said that was going to change in about 8 years when the night visibles would be available (unless he was only joking).

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How is that possible? Unless they are going to "create" a sun. :lol:
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#11 Postby Steve » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:04 pm

I don't know. Let me see if I can find out what he said. I think I read it on his blog at flhurricane.

aha

No such thing as dumb questions...

VIS is absolutely the best remote sensing tool for hurricane cloud pattern analysis..WV and IR are good, but can (and do) gloss over the fine details...remember that Vis is 1km resolution....IR is 4km and WV is 8k...Problem is we only get vis during the day (for now...but that will change a bit in about 8 years....LOL).

That's what he said but I never asked him the follow up. If I get a chance to PM him over there tomorrow or at his tv station in Panama City, I'll do it.

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#12 Postby Frank P » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:10 pm

you can go over to CFHC now, were all in a live chat group, JK too
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