Cindy-any chance of eastward turn BEFORE landfall?

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Cindy-any chance of eastward turn BEFORE landfall?

#1 Postby rockyman » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:01 am

Good Morning, All!

Cindy is looking quite healthy this morning...though she seems to be a little weak on the west side...I don't know much about steering currents...but the deeper steering layers do seem to veer to the NE right at the coast...Anyone think that Cindy will turn east of due north before making landfall in SE LA? This would give her a little more time over water...

Also...does anyone think Cindy could stall? It's been a while since we've seen a system sit and spin at the coast...and, after all, it's July and not September :D
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#2 Postby Brent » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:04 am

I doubt it turns before the coast(even the NHC track inland is more gradual).

It won't stall. Should be moving over 10 mph and probably closer to 15 mph when it comes in.
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#3 Postby x-y-no » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:06 am

Brent wrote:I doubt it turns before the coast(even the NHC track inland is more gradual).

It won't stall. Should be moving over 10 mph and probably closer to 15 mph when it comes in.


Agreed. And she's intensifying steadily, so may be right around the threshold of hurricane strength at landfall.
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#4 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:06 am

My Concerns exactly. The NHC has been left of the track to this point with it's own projections and I still see many models including the GFS turning Cindy more NNE soon and bringing her near Mobile, AL. Looks very plausible to me, especially with her convection all on the east side.
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#5 Postby LAwxrgal » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:10 am

With her intensification, it's plausible. Stronger storms tend to turn east quicker.

She's already moving due north, pretty much, which was sooner than forecast last night.
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#6 Postby skysummit » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:11 am

I highly doubt she'll be a hurricane before landfall. She would need to increase a whole 30mph over the next few hours and she doesn't look too good right now. It doesn't seem like she can get wrapped.
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#7 Postby Rainband » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:12 am

skysummit wrote:I highly doubt she'll be a hurricane before landfall. She would need to increase a whole 30mph over the next few hours and she doesn't look too good right now. It doesn't seem like she can get wrapped.
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#8 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:12 am

Check the sat. loop below and you can see that Cindy looks like she is strenghthening (IMO) and also still moving NNW. If she hooks NNE or NE it will be after she makes landfall on the LA. coastline.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... duration=6
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#9 Postby LAwxrgal » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:15 am

Stormcenter wrote:Check the sat. loop below and you can see that Cindy looks like she is strenghthening (IMO) and also still moving NNW. If she hooks NNE or NE it will be after she makes landfall on the LA. coastline.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... duration=6


Where's her center? She looks elongated.
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#10 Postby Rainband » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:15 am

LAwxrgal wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Check the sat. loop below and you can see that Cindy looks like she is strenghthening (IMO) and also still moving NNW. If she hooks NNE or NE it will be after she makes landfall on the LA. coastline.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... duration=6


Where's her center? She looks elongated.
thats what i said :lol:
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#11 Postby Agua » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:18 am

According to the 7 a.m. advisory, and my own eyes, she's moving due north and already east of track. My opinion as to where she goes is neither helpful, nor informed.
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#12 Postby Stormcenter » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:19 am

Rainband wrote:
LAwxrgal wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Check the sat. loop below and you can see that Cindy looks like she is strenghthening (IMO) and also still moving NNW. If she hooks NNE or NE it will be after she makes landfall on the LA. coastline.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... duration=6


Where's her center? She looks elongated.
thats what i said :lol:


I see it clearly.

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... duration=6
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#13 Postby Steve » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:23 am

I've got it at about 26.7N, 90.47W as of the last availble Goes8 Visible zoom.

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#14 Postby HollynLA » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:23 am

According to the 7 a.m. advisory, and my own eyes, she's moving due north and already east of track. My opinion as to where she goes is neither helpful, nor informed.


Looks to me like it's right on track, not east of it.
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#15 Postby Agua » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:27 am

That sounds reasonable.
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#16 Postby Agua » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:29 am

HollynLA wrote:
According to the 7 a.m. advisory, and my own eyes, she's moving due north and already east of track. My opinion as to where she goes is neither helpful, nor informed.


Looks to me like it's right on track, not east of it.


If you plot out the location on the 7 a.m. advisory as compared to the track, it is slightly, ever so slightly east of it: maybe a whopping 10 miles. :lol:
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#17 Postby Nimbus » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:36 am

She is moving right along in the early morning visibles.
Looks like she is near buoy 42001.
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#18 Postby Steve » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:39 am

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/satellite.shtml

Use the visible floater loop and click the right-most box (Trop Fcst Pts) and you'll see the hurricane center's indicated positions in relationship to the storm. It's fairly close and maybe a hair east.

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#19 Postby LSU2001 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:39 am

Looks to me that she is trying hard to wrap up. She still has some time over very warm water.
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Re: Cindy-any chance of eastward turn BEFORE landfall?

#20 Postby dixiebreeze » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:39 am

rockyman wrote:Good Morning, All!

Cindy is looking quite healthy this morning...though she seems to be a little weak on the west side...I don't know much about steering currents...but the deeper steering layers do seem to veer to the NE right at the coast...Anyone think that Cindy will turn east of due north before making landfall in SE LA? This would give her a little more time over water...

Oh yeah, just follow the wind pattern.

Also...does anyone think Cindy could stall? It's been a while since we've seen a system sit and spin at the coast...and, after all, it's July and not September :D
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