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What's up with the Western Pacific?

#1 Postby senorpepr » Mon May 01, 2006 7:47 pm

First, I should point out the following information is based off of the Joint Typhoon Warning Center's dataset and not the official RSMC: Japan Meteorological Agency-Tokyo.

Some people tend to think that a day without an active cyclone in the WPAC is a day of unusual inactivity. As a matter of fact, there have already been threads this year about the WPAC inactivity. Through the end of April, the WPAC has seen only one tropical storm (none officially, according to JMA). But... is one tropical storm really below average?

The following information is based on a 30-year dataset (1976-2005), covering the first third of the year (Janurary-April),,,

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Category  Average  StndDev  Low SD  High SD
Trop Stm   02.13    01.28    00.85   03.41
Typhoon    00.83    00.83    00.00   01.67
Int Typ    00.37    00.49    00.00   00.86
Sup Typ    00.07    00.25    00.00   00.32


Based on this... we are really about average. Things will flare up starting this month...
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#2 Postby HURAKAN » Mon May 01, 2006 7:52 pm

The Western Pacific is retiring and the Atlantic Ocean in taking charge!!!
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#3 Postby brunota2003 » Mon May 01, 2006 7:59 pm

right on schedule eh? that is cool...at least it isnt like last years Atlantic season...
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#4 Postby CHRISTY » Mon May 01, 2006 8:29 pm

HURAKAN wrote:The Western Pacific is retiring and the Atlantic Ocean in taking charge!!!
yea its been quite in the western pacific.... as far as the atlantic becareful what u wish for they might here u. :dont: :dont: :dont:
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#5 Postby JonathanBelles » Mon May 01, 2006 8:39 pm

shhh
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#6 Postby hurricanefreak1988 » Mon May 01, 2006 8:48 pm

HURAKAN wrote:The Western Pacific is retiring and the Atlantic Ocean in taking charge!!!

They're still stunned from the whooping we put on them last year. 8-)
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#7 Postby HURAKAN » Mon May 01, 2006 9:03 pm

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I WAS JUST KIDDING. LET THE WPAC KEEP THEIR HYPERACTIVE SEASONS.
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#8 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Mon May 01, 2006 9:55 pm

The WPAC has lost its touch.
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#9 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon May 01, 2006 10:19 pm

GO GO ATLANITC!!! We will see who winds the prize...

I say the western Pacific will get 1st 23 to 24 named storms
Eastern Pacific 2nd 17 to 19 named storms
Atlatnic 3rd 13 to 15 named storms

Wahooo!!!
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#10 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Mon May 01, 2006 10:28 pm

Could you tell us why you forecast that because I smell -removed-.
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#11 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon May 01, 2006 10:37 pm

Tropical cyclone forecast for 2006...
3-15-2006


The Eastern Atlantic has cooled off greatly. WIth -3 or so degrees below normal. The rest of the central into the western Atlantic is normal to slightly below normal...0 to -.5...The only place that is above normal is the gulf of Mexico with a strong loop current.

A cooler eastern Atlantic/western Atlantic/Caribbean will mean higher pressures in the tropics. So less tropical cyclone development will occur. Even with a la nina in the Eastern Pacific=Less wind shear over the tropical Atlantic expect a cape verdes only slightly more active then last year. More in line with 2000 with out strong shear.

The Azores high should be weaker then normal from June through October with higher pressures in the tropics=lower pressures in the subtropics. With a avg to slightly stronger then avg Bermuda high. So troughs should rule the eastern Atlantic making more recurvers.

The cooler then normal sst's might keep some waves from developing...Which once they get into the gulf of Mexico need to be watched...But will there be Katrina/Rita most likely not...

I expect 3 tropical cyclones to devlelop into tropical storms east of 40 west...

There will be about 2 or 3 extratropical systems going subtroipcal or tropical.

Also to note after the 1933 season some of the quitest season on record happen. So it could easly be less active then forecasted.

Also the Eastern Pacific should be about normal or slight above normal. Even so theres a La nina...

Forecasted numbers
13 named storms
5 hurricane
2 Major hurricanes


Forecaster Matthew

Most likely a better forecast then your finger in the air type? :roll:


Yes the Atlantic has warmed...But I don't expect a season much more active then a 2003,2004 like.
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#12 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon May 01, 2006 10:42 pm

Also things are stilll mostly in place from March. So yes theres more fuel so a more 2003,2004 season is likely...I think more storms like be turning out to sea or forming east of 50. The Gulf is what the fireworks could happen.
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#13 Postby AussieMark » Tue May 02, 2006 12:45 am

the west pacific is about as active or close to it as some of the really active seasons of the 1990's were at this point in time

so I think a more normal west pacific season of around 30 named storms can't be ruled out.

last year I feel was more of a abnomality than a new trend
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#14 Postby HurricaneBill » Tue May 02, 2006 1:27 am

AussieMark wrote:the west pacific is about as active or close to it as some of the really active seasons of the 1990's were at this point in time

so I think a more normal west pacific season of around 30 named storms can't be ruled out.

last year I feel was more of a abnomality than a new trend


Well, the WPAC does tend to be quieter following an El Nino.
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#15 Postby Aslkahuna » Tue May 02, 2006 3:59 am

Yes post El Niño seasons in WPAC do tend to be less active than usual-this was found in a study by JTWC some time back. As we go into a Niño, the activity tends to be located more to the east for formation with more storms getting up towards Japan and Korea and more than the average number of Supers which average 4-5 in a typical year. In the meantime, I do not see the EPAC being very active-I think the ATL willbe more active than EPAC.

Steve
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#16 Postby AussieMark » Tue May 02, 2006 7:29 am

in the 1997 EL Nino there were 12 supers
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#17 Postby Dionne » Tue May 02, 2006 7:49 am

I would like to submit my "wishcast" for the northern GOM. Zero landfalling hurricanes and 2 tropical storms. No flooding and no deaths resulting. Minor power outages. No looting. No ice trucks fully loaded sitting idle. No fuel shortages. Nobody sleeps on a bridge this year.

We deserve a break. :ggreen:
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#18 Postby Patrick99 » Tue May 02, 2006 8:12 am

HURAKAN wrote:Image

I WAS JUST KIDDING. LET THE WPAC KEEP THEIR HYPERACTIVE SEASONS.


I almost spit up my coffee when I saw that. hehe
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#19 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue May 02, 2006 11:14 am

Hurricanefreak its about time to make one of those for 2006 8-)
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#20 Postby HurricaneBill » Tue May 02, 2006 2:16 pm

Aslkahuna wrote:Yes post El Niño seasons in WPAC do tend to be less active than usual-this was found in a study by JTWC some time back. As we go into a Niño, the activity tends to be located more to the east for formation with more storms getting up towards Japan and Korea and more than the average number of Supers which average 4-5 in a typical year. In the meantime, I do not see the EPAC being very active-I think the ATL willbe more active than EPAC.

Steve


Oh definitely. Considering the recent La Nina, I was expecting a rather below normal EPAC season with probably 10-12 storms.

Considering how active the Atlantic was in 2005, I was surprised the EPAC got to 15 storms.
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