Interesting Use with Google Earth

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
User avatar
terstorm1012
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1314
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:36 pm
Location: Millersburg, PA

Interesting Use with Google Earth

#1 Postby terstorm1012 » Thu May 04, 2006 4:15 pm

This is an interesting tool I found on the web today.

http://flood.firetree.net/


It links to Google Earth, and you can superimpose rising seas (taken from NASA data I believe) over Google Earth maps.

I posted this here as the lower values (1, 2, 3, 4 ,5 ,6 and maybe 7 meters) could be used by some to take a guess at what could be innundated in a storm surge. Plus, it could probably generate some interesting discussion as well.

Take a look and enjoy.
0 likes   

HurricaneHunter914
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4439
Age: 31
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:36 pm
Location: College Station, TX

#2 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Thu May 04, 2006 4:28 pm

Very nice, thanks for posting it. I went to 14 meters above sea level and it showed my area under water!
0 likes   

User avatar
tailgater
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 3339
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:13 pm
Location: St. Amant La.

#3 Postby tailgater » Thu May 04, 2006 4:51 pm

Nice, Thanks
0 likes   

User avatar
Tampa Bay Hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5597
Age: 37
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:54 pm
Location: St. Petersburg, FL

#4 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Thu May 04, 2006 7:34 pm

holy smokes!!!! MY AREA FLOODS WITH 3-4 METERS OF WATER!!!!
My street would flood in a 9-10 foot surge!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
0 likes   

O Town
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 5205
Age: 52
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:37 pm
Location: Orlando, Florida 28°35'35"N 81°22'55"W

#5 Postby O Town » Thu May 04, 2006 7:43 pm

I can't find nothing on the itty bitty rectangle area, is there a way to make the map bigger?
0 likes   

JonathanBelles
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 11430
Age: 35
Joined: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:00 pm
Location: School: Florida State University (Tallahassee, FL) Home: St. Petersburg, Florida
Contact:

#6 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu May 04, 2006 7:47 pm

12 meters here a 40 foot storm surge
0 likes   

User avatar
caribepr
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1794
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:43 pm
Location: Culebra, PR 18.33 65.33

#7 Postby caribepr » Thu May 04, 2006 8:27 pm

Really fun page but I don't know about the accuracy. I put in PR (I couldn't bring it down to Culebra, which would have been cool) and it went to 5 meters...and covered a LOT of places beside PR - maybe I just haven't gotten tweaked into it correctly?. I think it seems on the high side? But maybe that is because I am so low it is affecting my view 8-) Very cool site regardless!


Hmm. I went back to check it and at 1 meter it registered...so I don't know what is accurate now. Well, what I do know is, I own a WHOLE lot of plastic tubs that get sealed in the season, or if I have to leave the island during hurricane season...guess I'll just stick with my system ;)
Last edited by caribepr on Thu May 04, 2006 8:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23693
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

#8 Postby gatorcane » Thu May 04, 2006 8:31 pm

Yep Tampa Bay is in big trouble if a CAT 3+ hits.

Most of Pinellas County will be gone (except the higher elevations of central and northern county). :eek:
0 likes   

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23693
Age: 47
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

#9 Postby gatorcane » Thu May 04, 2006 8:32 pm

Looks like the entire Southern 1/3 of the state is gone with a 14m water level rise.

Even with an 8m water rise most of Lake Okeechobie and Everglades have flooded the entire 1/3 of the state. How accurate is this thing? It is getting me quite nervous.

A CAT 4+ Hurricane coming in from the SE would really do a number down here.

:eek: :eek: :eek:
0 likes   

User avatar
caribepr
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1794
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2003 10:43 pm
Location: Culebra, PR 18.33 65.33

#10 Postby caribepr » Thu May 04, 2006 8:46 pm

boca_chris wrote:Looks like the entire Southern 1/3 of the state is gone with a 14m water level rise.

Even with an 8m water rise most of Lake Okeechobie and Everglades have flooded the entire 1/3 of the state. How accurate is this thing? It is getting me quite nervous.

A CAT 4+ Hurricane coming in from the SE would really do a number down here.

:eek: :eek: :eek:


Boca, don't be nervous, just be prepared. In the best of the worst case, if your most precious stuff is sealed up and high, it will be safe. If the worst of the worst happens and you are in the right place after doing the right thing, you will be happy to be alive with your loved ones.
As one who has lost everything material from 30 years of adulthood - and a serious collection of books, antiques, blah blah blah (and I'm 51, so I had a LOT), after the horror, the reality is...life goes on, and it is precious and beautiful in the light of the alternative.
Things - as in STUFF you have - are great!!! I loved my stuff. But I really like life more, and reality? As long as you have a will, you can always get stuff again. Not photos, not the heart stuff, but ...you heal and move on or go crazy...so...I'm sorta crazy and sorta healed :D
But fearing loss is worse than loss, trust me. Enjoy it while you have it, every day is precious. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best and live every day 200 percent (okay, I'm math challanged...oh well!).
0 likes   

User avatar
brunota2003
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 9476
Age: 34
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:56 pm
Location: Stanton, KY...formerly Havelock, NC
Contact:

#11 Postby brunota2003 » Thu May 04, 2006 8:48 pm

I'm still dry at 10m, however...the road right below my house would have water covering it...some water in the yard...at 11m...we get swamped...but check this out...not from the direction of the creek, across the street in front of my house...but from behind...:lol:
However...all escape routes are cut off around 5m or so... :eek:
0 likes   

User avatar
milankovitch
Tropical Storm
Tropical Storm
Posts: 243
Age: 40
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:30 pm
Location: Menands, NY; SUNY Albany
Contact:

#12 Postby milankovitch » Thu May 04, 2006 8:55 pm

I've seen a bunch of these but you can never find a 0.5m rise option. This would be interesting to see because most estimates for the next century are from 0.5-1m. I found something simillar last week.

http://www.geo.arizona.edu/dgesl/resear ... l_rise.htm
0 likes   

User avatar
terstorm1012
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1314
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:36 pm
Location: Millersburg, PA

#13 Postby terstorm1012 » Thu May 04, 2006 9:04 pm

yes this tool is really for sea level rise. however I think it can be useful for up to 10 meters for just a general type of "what could go under". Obiviously tides and storm track would determine what gets flooded more.
0 likes   

User avatar
senorpepr
Military Met/Moderator
Military Met/Moderator
Posts: 12542
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:22 pm
Location: Mackenbach, Germany
Contact:

#14 Postby senorpepr » Thu May 04, 2006 10:55 pm

I'm still dry at 300m...


8-)
0 likes   

CHRISTY

#15 Postby CHRISTY » Thu May 04, 2006 11:28 pm

very nice....
0 likes   

User avatar
Audrey2Katrina
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 4252
Age: 76
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:39 pm
Location: Metaire, La.

#16 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Fri May 05, 2006 12:13 am

senorpepr wrote:I'm still dry at 300m...


8-)


ROFL... I'm under sea level even if it "drops" 2m.
8-)

A2K
0 likes   
Flossy 56 Audrey 57 Hilda 64* Betsy 65* Camille 69* Edith 71 Carmen 74 Bob 79 Danny 85 Elena 85 Juan 85 Florence 88 Andrew 92*, Opal 95, Danny 97, Georges 98*, Isidore 02, Lili 02, Ivan 04, Cindy 05*, Dennis 05, Katrina 05*, Gustav 08*, Isaac 12*, Nate 17, Barry 19, Cristobal 20, Marco, 20, Sally, 20, Zeta 20*, Claudette 21 IDA* 21 Francine *24

User avatar
gtalum
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4749
Age: 49
Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:48 pm
Location: Bradenton, FL
Contact:

#17 Postby gtalum » Fri May 05, 2006 8:10 am

A 13m rise puts the water at my neighbor's house. A 14m rise puts my house in the water. :)
0 likes   

User avatar
canetracker
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 751
Age: 62
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:49 pm
Location: Suburbia New Orleans...Harahan, LA

#18 Postby canetracker » Fri May 05, 2006 11:36 am

Great program!
In Harahan, I am underwater at 7m. However, my in laws that live in Metairie by Lake Pontchartrain, are under at 2m.
It was also interesting to note that most metro New Orleans areas along the Mississippi River would not flood until about 6 or 7 m. However, areas pushing further in toward the lake seemed to be in trouble.
0 likes   

User avatar
terstorm1012
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1314
Age: 43
Joined: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:36 pm
Location: Millersburg, PA

#19 Postby terstorm1012 » Fri May 05, 2006 12:20 pm

boca_chris wrote:Looks like the entire Southern 1/3 of the state is gone with a 14m water level rise.

Even with an 8m water rise most of Lake Okeechobie and Everglades have flooded the entire 1/3 of the state. How accurate is this thing? It is getting me quite nervous.

A CAT 4+ Hurricane coming in from the SE would really do a number down here.

:eek: :eek: :eek:


The thing about the Lake is that in the past, before people moved there permanently, the Lake drained directly into the sea through the Everglades and Central Florida drained into the Lake. It still does, but at a lesser rate. At present there is a multi-billion dollar effort to restore the water flow back into the Glades but I don't know what the status on the project is. Point I'm trying to make is that South Florida except the strip that Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach sit on is one giant inches-deep lake, or was way back in the day.
0 likes   

Patrick99
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1772
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 3:43 pm
Location: SW Broward, FL

#20 Postby Patrick99 » Fri May 05, 2006 1:15 pm

terstorm1012 wrote:
boca_chris wrote:Looks like the entire Southern 1/3 of the state is gone with a 14m water level rise.

Even with an 8m water rise most of Lake Okeechobie and Everglades have flooded the entire 1/3 of the state. How accurate is this thing? It is getting me quite nervous.

A CAT 4+ Hurricane coming in from the SE would really do a number down here.

:eek: :eek: :eek:


The thing about the Lake is that in the past, before people moved there permanently, the Lake drained directly into the sea through the Everglades and Central Florida drained into the Lake. It still does, but at a lesser rate. At present there is a multi-billion dollar effort to restore the water flow back into the Glades but I don't know what the status on the project is. Point I'm trying to make is that South Florida except the strip that Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach sit on is one giant inches-deep lake, or was way back in the day.


Yup. But for the coastal ridge, this place would really not be habitable even as is. I see that even in a 9m sea-level rise, I'm still sitting dry on the ridge....but I'll have waterfront property.... There's a little strip of ridge that will become the "New Florida Keys" until that too goes under.

When you consider sea level rise, Florida's days are truly numbered....our number will be up (relatively) soon in geologic time. This is an ephemeral strip of land we live upon. With hurricanes, at least the water *will* recede fairly quickly.
0 likes   


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google Adsense [Bot], IcyTundra, Shawee and 44 guests