Hyperdimensional hurricanes

[cpdaman]

anyone open minded enough to take a look at this. before reading u should have an understanding of a few things namely the gov't concern over this

look at the link below , which also includes the secretary of state letting " the cat out of the bag" in a statement which details the concerns of people manipulating the weather using electromagnetic energy and other advanced top secret knowledge. http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/weblog.htm

or this detailed paper showing the capabilties and advantages of "owning the weather" to the AIR FORCE


http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume3/chap15/v3c15-1.htm (which details how we have the capacity's to "modify" the weather)

also the beleif that there is more we still have to uncover regarding physics and additional dimensions which may exist, which we need to figure out how to understand ( which i beleive some people already do) and why it could make OIL almost obsolete(which is why it may be surpressed) even if u are challenged to accept or contemplate that scenario http://www.vortexmaps.com/htmla/planets.php

thoughts, also do u think if there were certain knowledge available it would be available to the public or might anyone think that the public is better off knowing what the powers allow them to , basically what those in power beleive the "sheep can handle"

[windycity]

for the life of me, i dont see how weather manipulation of that magnitude would be possible. I really dont. Im looking at this from an intelligent and reasonable point of view, and it seems pretty silly to me! :

[terstorm1012]

are you talking about HAARP? lol...

[x-y-no]

The MIMIC algorithm makes assumptions about the structure and distribution of angular velocity in the effort to interpolate between passes. To the extent those assumptions are off by a little bit, one would expect to see spurious products of this sort.

All one has to do is return to the actual imagery and see that there's no hint of these "tuning fork interference patterns" to see that this is all hogwash.

[cpdaman]

let me ask u this.

do u think u have the knowledge or access to the most recent advances in technology to say something like this is "hogwash" or if one interpretation of this possible phenomena is flawed in your opinion (which may be based on assumption) does that mean the whole process is impossible or just there is possibly other ways in which it works.

on aol two weaks ago they came out with this invisibiltiy cloak (yes u read it right

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/artic ... 0409990025 would u have thought this was hogwash if i proposed it a month ago

windy city replied

"for the life of me, i dont see how weather manipulation of that magnitude would be possible. I really dont. Im looking at this from an intelligent and reasonable point of view, and it seems pretty silly to me! "

isn't that kind of like saying for the life of me i don't know how people build planes, do magick tricks cause i dont have or understand the information that makes this possible

why would the secretary of defense say "OTHERS ARE ENGAGING IN ANOTHER TYPE OF TERRORISM WHEREBY THEY CAN ALTER THE CLIMATE SET OF EARTHQUAKES VOLCANOES REMOTELY THRU THE USE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES - SEC OF DEFENSE WILLIAM COHEN 1997

there are many engenious mind working to do things that u mind can not comprehend, but u must be able to see it is still possible even if u dont' understand

[StrongWind]

I'm not saying that there isn't research that isn't being done into weather control - it's just that the "proof" at the trekkie's blog is not it.

Did you read at CIMSS?:

"Disclaimer
The individual images that are used as input into this product sometimes contain bad data in the form of missing scanlines or anamalously high or low values that often stretch in an arc across the image. When these areas are incorporated into the MIMIC product they form artifacts that fade in and out, and appear to move with the storm center. However, they have no physical meaning and hopefully they will not obstruct your interpretation of the imagery."

and

"Disclaimer: It was brought to our attention that this original animation of Hurricane Rita showed an anomalous red patch (often referred to as the "red fingers") to the west of the storm around the posted time of 09/23/05 1315 UTC. We have examined the original source of the data and established that this feature is the artifact of a transmission error in the DMSP-13 satellite (several brightness temperature values are negative, for example) that was extrapolated across a data gap in the imagery. The feature appeared to last for several hours because the algorithm that generates this data works by blending entire images - including their bad data - into one another over the span of several hours."

[x-y-no]

let me ask u this.

do u think u have the knowledge or access to the most recent advances in technology to say something like this is "hogwash" or if one interpretation of this possible phenomena is flawed in your opinion (which may be based on assumption) does that mean the whole process is impossible or just there is possibly other ways in which it works.

I have a basic understanding of how the MIMIC algorithm processes microwave imagery, and I have the personal experience of having dealt with spurious products in that type of processing. Furthermore, I have personally looked at the original microwave sattelite imagery of Wilma and this "tuning fork" phenomenon was in no way evident. Thus I'm quite confident in calling this claim "hogwash".

on aol two weaks ago they came out with this invisibiltiy cloak (yes u read it right

What does that have to do with the claim that some entity was actively modifying Wilma in order to intensify her and aim her at us?

BTW, the basic concept behind that "invisibility cloak" is one that's been around for decades. The only recent advance was in potentially developing materials capble of actually implementing such a "cloak". No such actual "cloak" has yet been created, as far as we know.

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060525140409990025 would u have thought this was hogwash if i proposed it a month ago

No, as I said, the basic idea of using some sort of waveguide material to steer light around an object has been around for decades. It has always seemed plausible that one would eventually come up with a practical material to do it. That's an entirely different matter from taking a perfactly normal image processing product and claiming it's evidence of a massive weather modification project (evidence which is mysteriously absent from all raw imagery and only appears in processed imagery).

[Extremeweatherguy]

let me ask u this.

do u think u have the knowledge or access to the most recent advances in technology to say something like this is "hogwash" or if one interpretation of this possible phenomena is flawed in your opinion (which may be based on assumption) does that mean the whole process is impossible or just there is possibly other ways in which it works.

on aol two weaks ago they came out with this invisibiltiy cloak (yes u read it right

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/artic ... 0409990025 would u have thought this was hogwash if i proposed it a month ago

windy city replied

"for the life of me, i dont see how weather manipulation of that magnitude would be possible. I really dont. Im looking at this from an intelligent and reasonable point of view, and it seems pretty silly to me! "

isn't that kind of like saying for the life of me i don't know how people build planes, do magick tricks cause i dont have or understand the information that makes this possible

why would the secretary of defense say "OTHERS ARE ENGAGING IN ANOTHER TYPE OF TERRORISM WHEREBY THEY CAN ALTER THE CLIMATE SET OF EARTHQUAKES VOLCANOES REMOTELY THRU THE USE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES - SEC OF DEFENSE WILLIAM COHEN 1997

there are many engenious mind working to do things that u mind can not comprehend, but u must be able to see it is still possible even if u dont' understand

I had seen a similar story on the invisibility cloak way back 2-3 years ago.

[Agua]

Ah, yes... Richard HOAXland; the same man who posits that NASA missions are determined by an ultra-secret Masonic Cabal with co-conspirators JPL and Old Navy.

[terstorm1012]

Ah, yes... Richard HOAXland; the same man who posits that NASA missions are determined by an ultra-secret Masonic Cabal with co-conspirators JPL and Old Navy.

Old Navy? Well, that explains EVERYTHING. Always thought that corporation had an evil plot to take over the universe (i used to work there, in my retail days)

[Stratusxpeye]

I'll belive eithe rone when I can see some proof. Invisible cloaks?
Not so sure i'd agree with that. If it's even possible I'd say it would be 10-20 years away. And weather control? Thats like the one article a year or so back that the middle east was controlling hurricanes and destroying america with them. Ha ok.

[Audrey2Katrina]

This whole thing smacks of the conspiracy nonsense I'd seen on some pages showing the ooooooooh "PENTAGRAM" in the eye of a hurricane.

I dunno; maybe it's me; but one would think folks would have better things to do with the time on their hands than come up with this kind of nonsense...

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=77&contentid=2700

Or this:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/pentagramhurricane17sep03.shtml

Sorry; but stuff and nonsense I say.

A2K

[cpdaman]

thanks for the reply's guys i just like to have some debates about things

i'm not sure if this thread had a chance on this board and word's like conspiracy seem to be synonymous with stories that are Made up or fake when in reality it simply means an alternative motive than the 1 given by those in authority in this world of increasing greed, money and power u have to be naive to beleive these things are ALL imaginary, while i agree the majority seem to be, but that leaves the minority (which is signifigant)

lastly tell me why the secretary of defense found it necessary to say ""OTHERS ARE ENGAGING IN ANOTHER TYPE OF TERRORISM WHEREBY THEY CAN ALTER THE CLIMATE SET OF EARTHQUAKES VOLCANOES REMOTELY THRU THE USE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES - SEC OF DEFENSE WILLIAM COHEN 1997

alot of people seem to need to know how things are done for them to beleive they are possible , could that be why they say man is afraid of the unknown.

[arcticfire]

I think someone has to put government on a fairly high and paranoid pedistool to think even our best and brightest are capable of manipulation of this level , and furthur that their goals are simply to cause havok and mayham to the innocent citizens.

The world is plenty dangerous without having to invent man mad causes to horrible natural things.

[cpdaman]

best and brightest huh, ur a tool. politicians are the most notorious for saying whatever the public wants to hear , especially when running for office, this is replaced by a dog and pony show when there in office, the truth is they beleive 95% of the people in the world need to be showed what to do, and what to beleive, and u my friend may be in the majority.

weather is being modified to ignore the evidence against it is either naive ignorance, or denial, excuse me while i make a analogy to baseball and it's steroid scandal. all the STAT geeks in basebeall get upset becuase there little numbers don't mean as much and aren't as "pure" due to performance enhancers , they could care less about what joe-baseball player puts into his body. just like i beleive all the weather "geeks" using term endearingly would be so upset to learn the weather they love following is subject (not always, or with every storm) to being artificially manipulated and thus there hobby weather watching or forecasting is not as natural as they had BELEIVED and EXPECTED. no one likes having there beleifs and expectations challenged because it causes change, which is the effect of the initial confusion after having the courage to have an open mind to learn something new, which is why people are afraid of this possibility

[windycity]

excuse me, but you have totally lost me.

[windycity]

I love a mental challenge,and will be the first one to explore new and unconventional ideas pertaining to science. This, however, is pretty much a no brainer. To also compare weather manipulation and drug use in baseball players is going nowhere. Make a comparable comparison .Just my two cents worth.

[cpdaman]

guys nevermind i thought showing an excerpt from the SECRETARY of defense would give my argument some leverage from a credible sourse, my analogy was trying to open the minds of people who would not like to accept the idea, but not based on wether it was possible or not, but rather they would not like to accept there hobby of watching weather may be subject to artificial enhancement which could cripple abilities to predict these things (making there hobby less fun) my hobby also.

i have a ten minute audio clip of someone who had top militiary clearance talk about the seeding they did in some storms in the mid 60's dropping a chemical solution in it in the north east quadrant which he verify's the storm it was used in and after five plane missions "seeding" this storm the intensity was reduced from 115 mph to 80 mph and thus he said damage was reduced 90% since most Signifigant structural damage occurs with winds over 100. that was the 1960's science has become so much more advanced u could only imagine (or not) what the capacites are now to modify weather using these methods or others also was used in vietnam and other areas that link is below

here's the link http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... cation.htm

yes anyone looking to debunk my theory will say it is on a website for a right wing radio talk show host's website (which is intriguing to say the least) but look who is being interviewed.

[mvtrucking]

Cpdaman,
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed reading it regardless. Not sure what to think,if this was in fact a reality. Scary,if it became true.(Might make a good scifi flick)

[Steve]

>>I'll belive eithe rone when I can see some proof. Invisible cloaks?

You'll be surprised. But it's on.

From CNN a few weeks ago:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/05/25/ ... .cloak.ap/

Steve