I just thought of something about the 2005 Atlantic season

[Cyclenall]

I just thought of something as I was watching this loop of the Atlantic hurricane season unfold by NASA. You know how it was crazy how strong Dennis and Emily got so early in the season in the Caribbean? This means that it was the prime spot for hurricanes blowing up and becoming major ones. I think everyone knows that of course but then I notice that there are almost no other Tropical Cyclones going through the Caribbean and around that area for months afterwards. And August and September didn't see much at all there, Katrina and Rita weren't in there and this is during the peak of the season. So then by October the season is starting to wrap up and there are a few things going on until a girl named Wilma came along and formed in the Caribbean (you know where i'm going with this). Then she went through some of the most rapid strengthening ever on earth and then we know the rest. Beta becomes a major hurricane in late October which is weird and he is also in the Caribbean. And then finally TD27 and Gamma (both the same I think) forms in mid November in the Caribbean. So what does this all mean? It means that the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season wasn't showing how bad it can really get. The Caribbean wasn't even used during the peak months!!

The peak of the season saw no storms in the Caribbean. How warm were the waters at the peak if a category 5 formed in there in mid July. That means we could have had tons of major hurricanes and more CAT5 hurricanes in that area at the peak but somehow the amazing 2005 season didn't need to use it! Just think what could have happened in September if tropical systems developed into storms. The season would have been worse maybe. I don't remember anyone talking about this but I do remember when Wilma was forming and people said "look out, those waters haven't been used since Emily!!".

Any thoughts, comments, and findings about this? This just popped into my brain out of nowhere but I'm not sure how much it's talked about. If records were being broken like crazy in the Caribbean out of peak, what would have happened during peak if storms came in there? Un-real storms I say (Wilma was unreal and wasn't in there at peak season either).

[bigmoney755]

Well I think we need a landfalling cat 5 bad. It's been way too long. Katrina had a perfect oppurtunity with 175mph winds and 12 hours till landfall and it just fell apart at the finish line. If we can get a 200mph hurricane 6 hours prior to landfall then surely it could withstand the rapid weakening that will occur. I'm not wishing a cat 5 on anyone, but people just have a careless attitude about hurricanes and we need a wakeup call. Katrina was the warning shot. I have my sights on Isaac. I'm thinking he will come with hell, fire, and brimstone.

[wxmann_91]

The pattern was awkward last year. Yes, had a storm formed in the Caribbean, we would've seen a monster, but OTOH, we probably wouldn't have seen Katrina, or Rita for that matter. Thing was that there was a persistant weakness invof the Islands that pulled most waves northward and out of the Caribbean. Meanwhile, a strong, persistant upper-level trough dominated the central and eastern Atlantic ocean, nearly killing the waves. But, these waves survived, and since they were weak, they were not pulled out into the Atlantic, but instead they were just caught by the east coast ridge and shoved into Florida and the Gulf Coast.

So technically, I would've preferred a strong Sept. Carib. cane. Much better than Katrina or Rita. In the end, it would've evened out in terms of ACE.

EDIT: what I mean is the pattern did not support any disturbances making into the Caribbean, and had they did, it would've signaled unfavorable pattern for storms further north, and overall fewer storms due to higher atmospheric pressures across the Atlantic

[Cyclenall]

Well I think we need a landfalling cat 5 bad. It's been way too long. Katrina had a perfect oppurtunity with 175mph winds and 12 hours till landfall and it just fell apart at the finish line. If we can get a 200mph hurricane 6 hours prior to landfall then surely it could withstand the rapid weakening that will occur. I'm not wishing a cat 5 on anyone, but people just have a careless attitude about hurricanes and we need a wakeup call. Katrina was the warning shot. I have my sights on Isaac. I'm thinking he will come with hell, fire, and brimstone.

You should have posted that in a different topic. Also, not all CAT5 hurricanes about to make landfall go through rapid weakening. Isaac is going to be weird storm, I agree. Debby and Kirk are also names to watch closely.

[Tampa_God]

Well I think we need a landfalling cat 5 bad. It's been way too long. Katrina had a perfect oppurtunity with 175mph winds and 12 hours till landfall and it just fell apart at the finish line. If we can get a 200mph hurricane 6 hours prior to landfall then surely it could withstand the rapid weakening that will occur. I'm not wishing a cat 5 on anyone, but people just have a careless attitude about hurricanes and we need a wakeup call. Katrina was the warning shot. I have my sights on Isaac. I'm thinking he will come with hell, fire, and brimstone.

You should have posted that in a different topic. Also, not all CAT5 hurricanes about to make landfall go through rapid weakening. Isaac is going to be weird storm, I agree. Debby and Kirk are also names to watch closely.

How about my name, Michael. It could be a monster.

[cheezyWXguy]

I hope its chris and not debby...I want my name to remembered!

[bigmoney755]

You should have posted that in a different topic. Also, not all CAT5 hurricanes about to make landfall go through rapid weakening. Isaac is going to be weird storm, I agree. Debby and Kirk are also names to watch closely.

Well Andrew and Camille are the only 2 that I can think of that did not rapidly weaken. Rita, Katrina, Isable, and Wilma fell apart. Not to mention some of the other cat 3 and 4 storms that fizzled.

[cheezyWXguy]

Wilma didnt fall apart at all, it made landfall w/ winds of 120-125 mph, it didnt weaken untill it was into florida

[Cyclenall]

You should have posted that in a different topic. Also, not all CAT5 hurricanes about to make landfall go through rapid weakening. Isaac is going to be weird storm, I agree. Debby and Kirk are also names to watch closely.

Well Andrew and Camille are the only 2 that I can think of that did not rapidly weaken. Rita, Katrina, Isable, and Wilma fell apart. Not to mention some of the other cat 3 and 4 storms that fizzled.

I know but I thought you meant just before landfall, not days before landfall.

[bigmoney755]

Wilma didnt fall apart at all, it made landfall w/ winds of 120-125 mph, it didnt weaken untill it was into florida

Wilma was the strongest Atlantic hurricane ever and had winds of 185mph, yet made initial landfall as a cat 4. Yes, I call that rapid weakening.

[wxmann_91]

Wilma was the strongest Atlantic hurricane ever and had winds of 185mph, yet made initial landfall as a cat 4. Yes, I call that rapid weakening.

No. That is NOT rapid weakening considering that the weakening took place over 4 days, and during that time it went through landfall and a ERC. Katrina went from 175 to 125 in just a few hours. That's rapid. The reason many Cat 5's weaken before landfall is the atmospheric conditions have to be perfect for one.

[HurricaneBill]

Wilma was the strongest Atlantic hurricane ever and had winds of 185mph, yet made initial landfall as a cat 4. Yes, I call that rapid weakening.

Wilma went through an eyewall replacement cycle, which dropped the winds from 185mph to 135 mph. However, Wilma was strengthening when she hit the Yucatan. Her winds had strengthened back up to 150 mph.

Also keep in mind, it is extremely difficult for a hurricane to maintain a powerful intensity for a long period of time.

[Derek Ortt]

October is the peak month for the Caribbean and is still the heart of the hurricane season. August and September are usually down times for the Caribbean

Many years have seen little Caribbean activity in August and September (1995, 1998, 1999, etc) yet ahve produced late season monsters

[Cyclenall]

We are way off topic. I knew this would happen somehow.

[HurricaneBill]

No. That is NOT rapid weakening considering that the weakening took place over 4 days, and during that time it went through landfall and a ERC. Katrina went from 175 to 125 in just a few hours. That's rapid. The reason many Cat 5's weaken before landfall is the atmospheric conditions have to be perfect for one.

Which is why I believe a midget cyclone is probably the likeliest to make a Category 5 landfall because of the tight pressure gradient.

[cpdaman]

in my controversial opinion these storms can/were manipulated by satelite circulating the earth to enhance storms and also seeding mission ( to weaken) (planes dropping chemical in northeast quadrant before landfall. to those who think its a wild idea or impossible it has been known for years the weather can be modified, (HAARP HMM) and behind the scenes u can imagine what the capacities really are the info isn't in bold print waiting to be read, but the weatherbook and other scientists and even the secretary of defense let it be known this was a major concern, without going into specifics, because panic is never a good effect

also the weather was manipulated in vietnam to enhance the rainfall

skeptical that's natural but open mindedness takes courage ignorance is bliss

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[Cyclenall]

cpdaman, could you not post that in your own topic?

[cpdaman]

sorry i'll take it out if u want but it was the first thought that came to mind regarding 2005 season

[Extremeweatherguy]

You should have posted that in a different topic. Also, not all CAT5 hurricanes about to make landfall go through rapid weakening. Isaac is going to be weird storm, I agree. Debby and Kirk are also names to watch closely.

Well Andrew and Camille are the only 2 that I can think of that did not rapidly weaken. Rita, Katrina, Isable, and Wilma fell apart. Not to mention some of the other cat 3 and 4 storms that fizzled.

What about the 1935 labor day storm? It was the strongest of the 3 (based on pressure) Cat. 5 landfalls in U.S. history and was strong enough to flip trains and rip up every blade of grass on parts of the island it hit directly.

[Swimdude]

I believe between Katrina, Rita, and Wilma, EVERYONE is well aware what a hurricane can do. Please, please PLEASE don't say that Katrina wasn't a wakeup call.